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Betta moss forest

Hi everyone, kinda new to the planted tank business. Here's my 25L (6.6Gallons) nano tank with internal overflow sump.

It has Christmas moss and Flame moss.
Fauna include a betta (double-tail half moon), 2 Amano shrimp and 1 Oto.
I dose 0.6ml of excel daily and have a DIY Co2 delivered through a the filter pump.

All comments welcome and I appreciate your valuable inputs!



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Gorgeous. How did you get the moss to grow like that? Did you just throw it in there and let it take hold as it wished?
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I'd love to see a flare photo of the betta, its hard to tell he's double tail 'relaxed'.
How aged was the tank before you added the oto and shrimp? Do you add algae and veggie supplements for them?
Though many people like to keep 1-2 otos in smaller tanks they really are a shoaling fish like cory and should be in groups of 6 or more in tanks 10g or larger to be stress free, solo or small groups they can get worried that some predator ate the others and hide more.
What is your tank temp? Otos generally prefer cooler waters (72-77F max) and a lot more flow and oxygenation than bettas. Also moss tends to do better in the mid 70sF and lower, though bettas like warm 78-82F range temperatures.

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Gorgeous. How did you get the moss to grow like that? Did you just throw it in there and let it take hold as it wished?
Thanks! Yup, I've had some excess moss after tying to the DW so i just left it there for them to grow on the substrate (gravel)

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I'd love to see a flare photo of the betta, its hard to tell he's double tail 'relaxed'.
How aged was the tank before you added the oto and shrimp? Do you add algae and veggie supplements for them?
Though many people like to keep 1-2 otos in smaller tanks they really are a shoaling fish like cory and should be in groups of 6 or more in tanks 10g or larger to be stress free, solo or small groups they can get worried that some predator ate the others and hide more.
What is your tank temp? Otos generally prefer cooler waters (72-77F max) and a lot more flow and oxygenation than bettas. Also moss tends to do better in the mid 70sF and lower, though bettas like warm 78-82F range temperatures.
Hope its a bit more clearer now:

Its hard to see it in pictures but maybe I can take a video of him swimming around tonight.
The tank is around 6 months old, I used to keep a school of 8 cardinal tetra must I've shifted them to another tank.
Yes, I only got to know about keeping otos after buying it together with the shrimps. Won't make the same mistake next time! It has plenty of spaces to hide so its been doing well so far. They have been thriving on algae so far but I supplement them with sinking pellets from time to time.

I understand that it will be tough to find the perfect temperature for them, Singapore is a pretty warm country so I use an USB fan to keep the water temp at around 25C (77F) in the day.
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Otos (and shrimp) also like blanched veggies (may take a few tries to learn its food) many people feed theirs zuchini, cucumbre, lettuce, or spinach once in a while. Mine especially love zucchini and even eat the outer rind.

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Otos (and shrimp) also like blanched veggies (may take a few tries to learn its food) many people feed theirs zuchini, cucumbre, lettuce, or spinach once in a while. Mine especially love zucchini and even eat the outer rind.
Oh I see, thanks for the tip, I will try to feed them some of those mentioned food to supplement their diet.

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Thanks! Hahha, it was actually thrown at the corner of the shop where I first got him. A hidden gem I would say
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Thanks! He wasn't have such nice colouration at the shop, he was rather neglected and discounted. I was really happy to see his colours coming out nicely and doing well
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Lovely setup and a lovely betta!

Sounds like you're pretty well set up, although I would give serious consideration to a second Oto. I know you don't have much room for a whole school, but they really are happier with at least one friend compared to being alone.


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Thanks! He didnt have such nice colouration when I picked him up from the shop, he was pale and pretty neglected. Its a steal really, he was heavily discounted.
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Sounds like you're pretty well set up, although I would give serious consideration to a second Oto. I know you don't have much room for a whole school, but they really are happier with at least one friend compared to being alone.
Thanks! Maybe this weekend I can head down to LFS to get another oto to accompany my lone oto ranger.
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Does the Betta chase the Amanos at all?
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Hey guys, I've been having trouble posting and have already contacted the moderator for help. I'm gonna give it another try at posting.

To DizzyD: nope, i read online to introduce the shrimps first before the betta, which was what i did and i think it worked well. But I guess it also depends on the personality of the betta as well. Mine is pretty laidback and doesnt bother any tankmates
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