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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-31-2009, 07:37 PM Thread Starter
 
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Low Maintenance Planted Nano Advice needed

I've had a reef tank for about a year and half and have gotten really burnt out from that whole thing, and I'm looking to set up a low maintenance tank with a small school of Neons or cardinals and thats it.

I'm looking into an ADA 45-P of ADA M tank, I don't know my way around planted tanks too well.

I think I need

-eheim canister of some sort
-Co2 system (preferably real simple)
-Small Light (I think my present 150w MH will be too much)
-Amazonia Substrate
- Driftwood or rock (Any advice on where to get some)
-Any Easy low maintenance plants?
-Supplements
-Test kit

I need a setup that won't need constant maintenance, Any advice?
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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-31-2009, 09:09 PM
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If you stick to low light plants like Java moss and Anubias you won't even have to worry about the CO2 and daily fert dosing.

Ebay is a good place for rock and driftwood if your LFS doesn't have a good choice.

150 over a fresh water is asking for algae aaaaaall over the place. Unless it is a 50/50 cause the actinic doesn't effect plant growth. So then you'd cut your watts in half when doing the calculation.

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On a Mini-M with the aforementioned plants (+ferns), I'd go no more than twenty watts; on a 45-P, I'd go twenty-eight watts.
Like Phoenix-cry mentioned, CO2 isn't necessary with those plants and light, but it couldn't hurt to start practicing. Eventually you will (I swear!) want to try more light-demanding plants and the practice on a low-light setup will be very helpful at that point when CO2 is a necessity.
All the equipment you mention (save the lights which you already knew was too much) is great.
And if you do those plants, rocks and driftwood as those plants blend very well with DW and DW always goes with rock.
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Sounds great, I'm probably gonna order a Mini M, driftwood, rock, amazonia substrate. Would the Eheim be too much flow?, does anyone use little HOB filters? Java moss and anubias sounds great! No Co2 for now would be convenient but as you said I definetly want to venture out and get some HC. (The stuff that everyone covers there tank with)

I'm always rescaping and overhauling any tank I've had after like 6 months or a year, so planted tanks probably won't be too different.

UG that ADA mini M of yours is amazing

With 20 watts what should I expect for algae w/o CO2? BTW what site did you get your mini M's lights at UG?
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honestly 20 watt shouldn't be much .. java moss and anubius would be perfect ! as for a mini HOB filters, yeah i have one on a 3 gallon, its a red sea . but as Ugly G says .. experimenting with co2 wouldn't hurt .. everyone loves to see there plants pearl*btw nice tank u got there UG*. As for foreground there's a really nice low light plant that looks similar to glosso, fogot what it was called .. starts with an M if i'm correct.

im going to keep my eyes on your forum, sounds like you got a plan
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Just an update I just finished taking down my reef, I'm going to do a 20 long planted setup with 20 cardinal tetras and some easy plants. I'm considering a pressurized co2 setup, not sure which one though.
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I wouldn't recommend those with a 20 probably have to replace the cartidges often. I would suggest either a GLA, SUMO, Rex Griggs Regulator and a 5lb tank.

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I wouldn't recommend those with a 20 probably have to replace the cartidges often. I would suggest either a GLA, SUMO, Rex Griggs Regulator and a 5lb tank.

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Sounds good I'll check those out. If I get the reg and the tank would I just need some tubing and a diffuser, Like this one?

http://www.greenleafaquariums.com/co...user-1000.html
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You could do something like this would be fairly cheap:

Regulator: http://www.greenleafaquariums.com/co...regulator.html

Permaseal: http://www.greenleafaquariums.com/co...permaseal.html

Check Valve: http://www.greenleafaquariums.com/ch...eck-valve.html

Tank: http://www.greenleafaquariums.com/co...-cylinder.html

Diffuser: http://www.greenleafaquariums.com/co...zs-pollen.html

Everything to get you started minus a timer for the regulator. Note lats of places to look but this gives you a general idea.

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You could do something like this would be fairly cheap:

Regulator: http://www.greenleafaquariums.com/co...regulator.html

Permaseal: http://www.greenleafaquariums.com/co...permaseal.html

Check Valve: http://www.greenleafaquariums.com/ch...eck-valve.html

Tank: http://www.greenleafaquariums.com/co...-cylinder.html

Diffuser: http://www.greenleafaquariums.com/co...zs-pollen.html

Everything to get you started minus a timer for the regulator. Note lats of places to look but this gives you a general idea.

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Nice! Thanks for breaking everything down. I'll check that stuff out.
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Would the ada co2 setup be good a tank of my size?

http://www.adana-usa.com/index.php?m...products_id=15

I think it costs about the same as the other setups and it has magic rainforest air that produces "fragrance of a natural forest".
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the ada c02 would work but i think you would be better off with the other stuff simply because you can get a bigger tank for c02 so it will last longer before you have to refill it.
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Thanks, I was just worried about refilling the large tank because I have no idea where to have it refilled. I checked around for fire extinguisher refillers, I'm probably not looking hard enough. How long does 5 pounder last?
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If your going for pressurized co2 I recommend the victor dual stage regulator, it's on the swap n shop right now.
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