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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 01-25-2015, 07:22 PM Thread Starter
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Nano tank stocking and questions

Hello!

I'm new to this forum and Nano tanks. I previously had a 130L tank for 4 years, so I'm not completely new to fish keeping, but I had to sell it when my daughter was born.

As a result I needed something smaller and have just bought a 12"x12"x12" ( the quoted spec is 22L/5 gallon) Nano tank.

I've put black quartz substrate in it and while I'm doing a fishless cycle I've been marking a Java moss "tree", see attached photo.

I like Galaxy and Chilli Rasbora and would ideally like some dwarf Otos and shrimp but I'm nervous about water quality with such a small tank. The LFS have suggested the following:

6x Galaxy Rasbora
6x Chili Rasbora
2-3x Otos or 1 pleco
4-5x shrimps

I have the following questions:

1) It sounds like the fish above would make the tank overstocked so I'm tempted to go for the above without the Chilis. Any thoughts?

2) I want to make it look like a natural countryside scene (something like this http://www.adaaust.com.au/gallery/co...hoto/10a_L.jpg) so thought I might put use some dwarf hairgrass for grass clumps and moss on the substrate to resemble ferns. I'd like something different to what's on the tree and was thinking about flame or christmas moss, are there any recommendations for moss types?

3) I'd also like some rock clusters to break the grass up and bought some "ocean rock" that looked nice. However, I live in a hard water area with a pH of 8 so do not want a pH any higher. Will the "ocean rock" push the pH up? What other light coloured rock could I use that'd not affect the pH?

4) Do you have any other advice?

Many thanks for your help.
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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 01-25-2015, 09:42 PM
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I would just do a single school of fish maybe 8 and the shrimp. The pleco would not be a good idea in a tank that small.
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Ya, 14-15 fish, even small ones, could be pushing it, especially with the stock filter and low plant level you have. A single larger school of fish would look good, and otos are always fun.If you want a little more fish variaty though you could look at other small fish that aren't schooling, like bumblebee gobies or scarlet badis. They are fine on their own and small enough to fit in the tank and not mess with the rasboras.
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Great, thanks so much for your help!

Do you think the following would be too much:

6-8x galaxy rasbora
1x Pygmy gourami
2x oto
4-5x shrimp

Thanks!
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Great, thanks so much for your help!

Do you think the following would be too much:

6-8x galaxy rasbora
1x Pygmy gourami
2x oto
4-5x shrimp

Thanks!
Personally I'd leave out the Rasbora's as they are schooling fish and I would house them in no smaller than a 10 gallon, same with the Oto's
Gourami's need more territory, so a 15 or 20 gallon.
Just some larger shrimp, maybe one nertite snail and Chili Rasboras since they are the smaller ones. The Galaxy Rasboras grow larger.
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I would do at most 10 chilli rasboras, and some shrimp. Pygmy gouramis hunt shrimps and may be a bit aggressive. You can do a small shoal of chilli rasboras and pygmy corys. That's because they are awesome fish. All my suggestions are quite heavy stockings, so like 50% wc a week.
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I would do the rasboras OR the Gourami, not both. Tank is too small for both. (bear in mind the above warning about the gourami hunting shrimp, though, so maybe the rasboras are a better idea) 2 otos should be fine, along with however many shrimp you want. I wouldn't do more otos in a tank that small... but don't do less, either. Otos need a friend. (for real)


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You can do Trichopsis pumila, sparkling gouramis which are tiny.

I agree with what others have mentioned. With that type of aqua scape you want a very light fish load.

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So annoyed right now -- accidentally toasted my message that was more than half-typed so here is an abbreviated version.

1. Ditto others on the plec and gourami - nix.

2. You need a lot more plants, IMO. The Christmas moss can make really lovely trees, like in this video ==> http://youtu.be/QKIKqSW5MxU

Are you doing a natural planted tank "all the way" a la Walstad? That's what I'll be doing in a week or so (very excited!). Just ordered most of my plants from Alpha Pro Breeders. Going with Fluval plant stratum, CaribSea Super Naturals substrate which is a small, smooth uncoated gravel -- seeded with Borneo Wild Boost (on the glass) first, and planting Anubias Nana, Anubias Nangi, Ludwigia Repens, Crypto. Wendtii red, and Willow Moss. I'll see how all this looks, probably try to find a really nice rock (would die and go to heaven if I found a Japanese Sado-Akadama Stone) & supplement with more plants if needed.

If you aren't doing the Walstad thing, you can def. get by with fewer plants, but for the natural tank method you need quite a few -- much more than what seems 'normal'.

My stocking idea is to have 'the right number' of Celestial Pearl Danios, a nerite snail (beautiful & do not reproduce in fresh water), and a handful of shrimp, plus possibly a couple other small non-shoaling like were mentioned by others in this thread (thanks for the ideas!). I'd like to find some Orange Bees to go with Cherry Reds.

Good luck & hope to see pictures from you soon!
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