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Nano filter suggestions?

I currently have a Red Sea Nano filter (http://www.aquariumguys.com/nanofilter.html) and ironically, I don't have much current.

Looking for a suitable, more powerful replacement to this. Would prefer a very small canister filter so that I could hide it out of the way, but am open to suggestions. An 20 gallon Aquaclear set on low comes to mind.

I have a 5.5 gallon ADA M tank. At the very least I think I need something twice as powerful as the Red Sea Nano...and something with a better design. The Red Sea is only about 20% effective because so little of the filter medium area is untouched by flowing water.

Many thanks in advance to all those who have suggestions - please note if you actually use the filter you are suggesting. Nothing personal but I have been burned many times on this forum by people suggesting things that they want but do not have, and upon real-world use by myself, are revealed to totally stink.

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Pick yourself up the smallest Aquaclear HOB. They are very effective and will probably give you the flow you are looking for. They are also rather inexpensive.

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I'll second the Aquaclear, great little filters.

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X3 on the AC's the best of the HOB's IMO. You could also go the canister route with your mini-m, I have personal experience with this tank and a few filters, The zoomed 501 canister is the cheapest at about 25-35 bucks. I used to run this on my mini-m tank and it worked just fine but later upgraded to a 2232.
My next choice would either be a Eheim 2232 or a 2213 both are a great choice but will run you a little more... closer to 60 -70 bucks. I got a steal on ebay and got a 2232 for 50 shipped!
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Hi Mott: Not sure if you are still following this thread but I got busy around the new year.

Looking into the higher-end suggestion of yours, the Eheim 2232. Do you have a rough guess of how tall it is? I am having difficulty finding this information online but will likely go with the unit as long as it hides behind my 10.25 inch high tank.

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Lighting: 78 Watts T5HO (1.7 watts per gallon)

Substrate: 80 lbs Eco-Complete.

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5.5 Gallon ADA Nano: Fish need to be restocked.

Plants: Background of Marsilea Minuta, Myrio Simulan and a random Anubia.

Lighting: 13W 6500K Jebo.

Heating: Non-Brand Name 100W 8" glass heater (sounds crazy but great heater)

Substrate: Pond soil from a landscaping store; 1/2 inch of Eco-Complete on top.
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Hi Mott: Not sure if you are still following this thread but I got busy around the new year.

Looking into the higher-end suggestion of yours, the Eheim 2232. Do you have a rough guess of how tall it is? I am having difficulty finding this information online but will likely go with the unit as long as it hides behind my 10.25 inch high tank.
From the bottom of the can to the top of the in-out nozzles is roughly 13 inches.


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Ah, no good then. Maybe this is a good excuse to go a cheaper route with a HOB filter.

Or the Zoomed 501 looks pretty sweet, and it looks substantially smaller than 10 inches high. I've never had a filter with a spray bar but I would think that it would create some great, widespread water movement. What were your experiences with it and/or why did you upgrade?

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Substrate: 80 lbs Eco-Complete.

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Plants: Background of Marsilea Minuta, Myrio Simulan and a random Anubia.

Lighting: 13W 6500K Jebo.

Heating: Non-Brand Name 100W 8" glass heater (sounds crazy but great heater)

Substrate: Pond soil from a landscaping store; 1/2 inch of Eco-Complete on top.
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The 501 ain't no Eheim but it's a decent filter. The reason I upgraded was I bought some glass lily pipes and they didn't fit the 501 tubing. I could have used some reducers but I chose not to and I'm glad I did, the 2232 has a substantial amount of flow compared to the 501.
I think a lot of people use the 501 on their mini's and love em, my only gripe with the filter is there are no quick disconnects, AC 20's are also a good choice.
Is your mini-m not on a stand?


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Nope no stand; why do you ask?

No quick disconnects may be a pain but I still think anything is an improvement over the trickle coming out of my Red Sea nano.

Mott, is the Zoomed 501 have the ability to work without the spray bar? i.e. more in the fashion of a standard canister filter output?

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Plants: Background of Marsilea Minuta, Myrio Simulan and a random Anubia.

Lighting: 13W 6500K Jebo.

Heating: Non-Brand Name 100W 8" glass heater (sounds crazy but great heater)

Substrate: Pond soil from a landscaping store; 1/2 inch of Eco-Complete on top.
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Nope no stand; why do you ask?
No stand? tisk tisk...JK I ask because you want to store the canister behind the tank, made me think you don't have a stand.

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No quick disconnects may be a pain but I still think anything is an improvement over the trickle coming out of my Red Sea nano.
Mott, is the Zoomed 501 have the ability to work without the spray bar? i.e. more in the fashion of a standard canister filter output?
Yes but at a cost, flow is greatly reduced without a spraybar.
This is how I have it on my 6 gallon betta tank, he likes the low flow


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Also consider the Tom's C-80

I have one of these exact tanks - the ADA Mini-M size that I use a Tom's Aquatics mini canister filter on. Actually, on ALL the nano tanks I have I use the C-80 on them. Currently, I have 6 of the canister filters up and running and they work great. There are some things to consider, though:
  • First of all, they can be found for about $25-$30 on ebay/online
  • The hoses and filter media that come with it are crap
  • Use a 3/8" ID tubing for the filter, it fits fine and seals tight
  • If you have 1/2" ID filter pipes (like I do) then you need barb adapters that connects the 3/8" to 1/2" ID tubing together
  • I also install the Magnum quick disconnects so I can quickly disconnect and service the filter if need be. It has the added benefit of also being able to control the flow of the output from the filter.
  • In the first chamber I put Seachem's Matrix bio media
  • In the second chamber I put a Purigen bag and regular filter floss
I don't believe in using carbon in the filter of a planted tank, so I only use the Purigen for the chemical filtration of my planted tanks.

Also, the Eheim 2232 and 2213 both work for me in similar sized tanks, so I also recommend those as they work very well and the flow rates can also be adjusted to accommodate your needs.

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I have to second Mott's suggestion for the ZooMed 501 Repti-filters. I use them on some of my nano-tanks, and some of my 29-gallon tanks, and they work really well. They don't clog often, you'll be cleaning them once every few months. You asked about using them without the spraybar. I don't see why that would be a problem. They're a great little filter!

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Also, the 501 will fit 9 mm lily pipes, which are readily available, if you go that route. I have one on my 2.5 gal and the flow's decent for that size. Might still be enough on yours, especially if you don't pack the filter and keep it clean. Height is only like 6 or 7 inches tall.
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I have to second Mott's suggestion for the ZooMed 501 Repti-filters. I use them on some of my nano-tanks, and some of my 29-gallon tanks, and they work really well. They don't clog often, you'll be cleaning them once every few months. You asked about using them without the spraybar. I don't see why that would be a problem. They're a great little filter!

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The reason I ask about the spraybar is that I'm already seeing significant evaporation from my lid-less design, and was just curious if the spraybar was an unmodifiable part of the Zoomed 501.

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5.5 Gallon ADA Nano: Fish need to be restocked.

Plants: Background of Marsilea Minuta, Myrio Simulan and a random Anubia.

Lighting: 13W 6500K Jebo.

Heating: Non-Brand Name 100W 8" glass heater (sounds crazy but great heater)

Substrate: Pond soil from a landscaping store; 1/2 inch of Eco-Complete on top.
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As far as I know, you could modify the spraybar without any problem.

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