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8 Gallon Seiryu Scape

Small 8 gallon hex tank with seiryu stones
Flourite substrate with some gravel
Right now it only has a single java sword sprout and a little duckweed
I have 3 glow light tetras and a baby bristlenose pleco in there currently
13W Daylight spiral CFL for light
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That's a neat tank -- did you make it?
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thanks, no I didnt build it however it is hand built
was built by a family friend for my parents in the 80s :p
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Im thinking of planting Didiplis Diandra and Dwarf Hair Grass
Would these do well in this tank or do I need more light?
Im not planning on CO2 but might diy it if the plants dont grow well enough

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Neither of those will do well in a non-CO2 tank without a more specialized approach. Its doable with DIY CO2 though.

Your tank is very interesting. Never seen anything like it; if the frames were a bit thinner I think it could have the space-age feel.

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what would be the more specialized approach?
sounds cryptic, lol
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lol yeah in hindsight it does. Generally speaking, DHG is not recommended without CO2, and Didiplis Diandra is not amongst the easiest stems.

I believe that some of the pickier plant like DHG can be grown with a proper dirt substrate, shallow tank, high light, good flow, low bio load. However, it seems on this forum at least, very few people have come forward with similar conclusions. You can read some of the discussion here:

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If you want a stem plant with some color, rotala rotundifolia works well in low tech. BTW you know flourite has no significant nutrients right ? So you'd have to dose or use root tabs

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lol yeah in hindsight it does. Generally speaking, DHG is not recommended without CO2, and Didiplis Diandra is not amongst the easiest stems.

I believe that some of the pickier plant like DHG can be grown with a proper dirt substrate, shallow tank, high light, good flow, low bio load. However, it seems on this forum at least, very few people have come forward with similar conclusions. You can read some of the discussion here:

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If you want a stem plant with some color, rotala rotundifolia works well in low tech. BTW you know flourite has no significant nutrients right ? So you'd have to dose or use root tabs
yes I am aware of that, will be getting some osmocoat root tabs most likely (will probably get a bottle on ebay and make my own caps though)
I will be dosing with the flourish line as well once i get this going
it is a fairly low bio load, its got 3 tetra and a baby bristlenose pleco

I also dont mind failing, im not gonna learn what works and what doesnt without screwing up several times, hehehe

I like the look of Didiplis Diandra, what would I need to know to grow these?
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That's an interesting looking tank.
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Without CO2, I've seen better growth with either Ada aquasoil or a dirted substrate. Fracted clay substrates like flourite can grow easy plants, but I've never seen a low tech glosso or DHG tank using just that alone. Using it as a cap over dirt works well. Stronger lighting can help, but stronger lighting can cause algae issues so you'd need more aggressive stems to balance out, and start off with no bio load ideally for first couple of months till the plants grow in.

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+1 to everything Dennis said.
You will need the advantage of a nutrient-rich substrate to pull off carpet plants in there.


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so root tabs would not be sufficient nutrients for the plants?
I do have a bag of miracle gro organic potting soil, I could sift out more for this tank if i need to but id rather not break it down

If I use osmocote in capsules that would not be enough for the plants? I dont mind sticking root tabs in there every so often

if root tabs wont be enough then I will probably just invest in either a diy co2 system or a small paintball set up and see what I can do then, thats just the most expensive option, hehehe
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Awesome tank! It makes so much sense that that tank came out of that decade. Haha.
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That won't be enough for the more difficult plants. That combi can still grow the easier plants well though - you still have a wide list to choose from ; Ludwigia Repens, rotala rotundifolia, most common swords, most common crypts, most hygrophilas, hemianthus glomeratus, dwarf sag, vals, java ferns, anubias, water sprite/wisteria.

CO2 opens up almost all options as long as your water dosing is done well & CO2 control is good.

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