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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 04-03-2008, 08:06 PM Thread Starter
 
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5.5g Nano (the start)

Sup guys?

I'm sure most of you have seen my 2.5g planted tank. If not, here it is.




That didn't last too long because I went out and bought a 5.5g tank and used some other stuff I had lying around to upgrade my desk tank. I took the rim of the 5.5g off and scraped off all the excess silicone. I kept all the plants that were in the 2.5g (Dwarf Hair Grass and an Unknown) and added another unknown plant that came in a bulb pack from PetCo.
(If anyone knows what they are please let me know)

For filitration I'm using a Red Sea Nano Filter, it was on the 2.5g tank but created too much of a current for my Betta. The lighting is from my old 10g tank, 15W bulb 20'', as you can see it hangs over on both sides a little bit but I don't really care, all the light is going into the tank lol. At the moment for heating I'm using a 7.5w heater from the 2.5g, I'm probably going to get a 25w one sooner or later. The sand is 2'' deep at the highest point.

So I have like 3 WPG (accounting for water lost due to the driftwood, rocks, plants, and sand) So I added this:
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...18&pcatid=6318

It was in my 45g tank but I'm in the process of taking that down.

So this is what I have now:











2 Golden Apple Snails, 1 Unknown snail and a Betta. I had Amano Shrimp but they commited suicide for some reason...

I'm doing 4 drops a week of these:





Think the 15w of lighting is enough?

Anyone ever use the CO2 thing I'm using?

So what do you guys think?

Thanks in advance.

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hey nice work you guys with these little tanks are making me wanta do a nano and to boot that is after staring at my planted 210 all day
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Haha thanks lol I actually just went out and bought a pot of HC and Eco Complete.

I wish I could have a 210g tank lol

Have any pics of it?
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wow, you like white. a lot.

i like the wood, the rock not so much.

oh and which sand is that? if its just quartz or silca then its pretty much devoid of nutrients.

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wow, you like white. a lot.

i like the wood, the rock not so much.

oh and which sand is that? if its just quartz or silca then its pretty much devoid of nutrients.
Yeah I like white a little bit lol I was actually thinking about ditching the rock and just keeping the wood because I just got a 20 lb bag of Eco Complete and a pot of HC.

I'm not going to plant the HC untill this weekend because I still need to paint the backround, take the sand out and add the Eco Complete.

Will the HC be cool in the pot for a few days under a 23W light that emits 1600 lumens? 380 mA? I don't know the degree K. Is there a conversion from mA to K?
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You are going to need more light for HC and dwarf hairgrass in the tank. 15w isn't going to be enough. WPG rule doesn't really apply on small tanks, since they need more wattage then you'd think. Get a 27w desk lamp or something around 25 watts. If you have switched to the 23w, that may be good enough.

The HC should be fine in a pot for a few days.

I'm not sure about your co2 thing either. You would probably be better off using a couple 2L bottles and doing the yeast method. You want the co2 level to be really steady for HC or it won't grow well.


Do any of those ferts have macro nutrients in them (nitrates, potassium, phosphate)? If not, you'll want to get atleast the 1st 2. DG and HC both love their macros.

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If you can get that HC to grow then so be it. If not then you learned your lesson. Im attempting to grow HC and Dwarf Hairgrass in 1wpg. I will be setting up DIY CO2 as well. I find nothing wrong with experimenting with what you have. Good Luck.

JustOneMore21-DIY CO2 will not even be steady. For it to be steady you would need to replace the CO2 every few days.


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You are going to need more light for HC and dwarf hairgrass in the tank. 15w isn't going to be enough. WPG rule doesn't really apply on small tanks, since they need more wattage then you'd think. Get a 27w desk lamp or something around 25 watts. If you have switched to the 23w, that may be good enough.

The HC should be fine in a pot for a few days.

I'm not sure about your co2 thing either. You would probably be better off using a couple 2L bottles and doing the yeast method. You want the co2 level to be really steady for HC or it won't grow well.


Do any of those ferts have macro nutrients in them (nitrates, potassium, phosphate)? If not, you'll want to get atleast the 1st 2. DG and HC both love their macros.
The 23w had the HC pearling last night before I turned the lights off.

As for the CO2 I'm looking into a full blown system for like 150$

I just got Eco Complete and it has those macro nutrients.

Don't I get Nitrates from the bio load?
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Nice tank but 1 question:
How much did the tank alone cost??

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Nice tank but 1 question:
How much did the tank alone cost??
Thank you and the tank is just an AGA 5.5g at PetCo for like 12$
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Okay, so I decided to add the Eco Complete and the HC yesterday.





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The tank isn't full yet because I've heard of people growing HC emmersed. I have a 23w light over it and I spray it with regular water twice a day aftrer the lights are on for like 10-12 hrs.

Any of that right?

Thanks.
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You may still need to dose macro nutrients in the water. Eco Complete doesn't make up for dosing ferts.

Lookin good so far! The Eco looks alot better than that sand!

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You may still need to dose macro nutrients in the water. Eco Complete doesn't make up for dosing ferts.

Lookin good so far! The Eco looks alot better than that sand!

I'm still a newb since this is only my 1st Nano tank and 1st tank I'm actually going to keep a fert regimen with.

What are macro nutrients?


Thanks, I agree also, the Eco Complete looks real nice... Matches the look I have goin in my room too.
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Macro nutrients are various elements that plants require. Some of these include nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium, sulfur, etc.

In order to provide for these elements, you will have to fertilize your plants either using commercially available products (i.e. Seachem makes a line of macro nutrients), or better yet, seeing as you have multiple aquariums, you may want to look into dry fertilizers (just in case you want to plant your other tanks )

Dry fertilizers are essentially chemicals that you can add to the tank in order to provide the nutrients that your plants require. These typically include: potassium nitrate (to supply nitrogen and potassium), potassium sulfate (to supply the sulfur) and potassium, potassium dihydrogen phosphate (to supply phosphorus), and magnesium sulfate (to supply magnesium and sulfur).

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Macro nutrients are various elements that plants require. Some of these include nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium, sulfur, etc.

In order to provide for these elements, you will have to fertilize your plants either using commercially available products (i.e. Seachem makes a line of macro nutrients), or better yet, seeing as you have multiple aquariums, you may want to look into dry fertilizers (just in case you want to plant your other tanks )

Dry fertilizers are essentially chemicals that you can add to the tank in order to provide the nutrients that your plants require. These typically include: potassium nitrate (to supply nitrogen and potassium), potassium sulfate (to supply the sulfur) and potassium, potassium dihydrogen phosphate (to supply phosphorus), and magnesium sulfate (to supply magnesium and sulfur).
Great info. What Seachem products do you suggest for both Macro and Micro nutrients?

I have a 10g tank and a 45g tank, both were planted at one point and time lol, the 45g tank is planted but I plan on tanking it down and only focusing on the 10g tank which is currently a Fiddler Crab tank and the 5.5g because I'm going away to school next year and I don't want to invest time into the 45 and then have it crash beacuse I'm not here to take care of it.

What do you think is better: dry fertz or liquid fertz for just the 5.5g?

I highly doubt I'm going to plant any more tanks.... haha

Thanks for the info
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