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New 5gal...

The 5gal will be taking the place of my 2.5g as the show tank in my room.
My 2.5 will be stripped down, removal of plants and driftwood.
my plan for it is to be moved accross the room, where window light will be able to hit it. Will try to attempt a moss carpet on bottom, a few planted hygrophilas, and otherwise some floating hygrophila polysperma and moss.
I'll keep that a betta only tank, no filter.

As for the 5gal. Well i'll have 2 plants to work with off the bat- Hygrophila Polysperma and Java moss.
I'll be putting peat moss//soil on the bottom layer, capped with fine gravel(maybe shultz's aquasoil-how much is it in canada?).
I will also try and have a nice rockscape propped up.
In a similar fashion to Ryzilla's tank.
Probably Hygrophila polysperma in both corners of the tank.
and at the front somewhere, java moss will be put on some of the rocks.

Any suggestions for plants?
Max. 4 species and i have 2 down.
I might add a grasssy plant for foreground (pygmy chain or dwarf sag.?)

Filtration will be an elite mini, using an elite stingrays smaller impeller- max flow maybe 30gph? for mech. filtration and water movement.

Lighting is where i'm boggled, due ot lack of funds, i'll probably be using the current lights that i have over the 2.5- 15watt spiral cf. - Any suggestions that will cost BELOW $15?

Ferts- will dose api leafzone weekly, and will probably get some excel and dose that weekly as well.

Edit: or i'll keep the 15watt lighting, adjsut hte fish stocking, don't dose ferts or excel and go for a el natural/natural planted tank.
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Less than $15? That won't be easy. Unfortunately this hobby isn't usually cheap. And when it is, you usually end up upgrading to a more expensive one anyhow. Save up and get a decent light and you'll have a nice tank. Just don't rush into it. Thats when mistakes and (usually) big screw-ups happen. I have a 5 gallon hex(which I would never recommend) with a 27w PC desk lamp that I got for about $40 on amazon.com. http://www.amazon.com/Full-Spectrum-..._sbs_k_title_5
Here's a picture of it in action :




I hope this helps! Good luck and keep us posted.

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i might go low tech, keep with the current lights, that way less light to feed algae, going with a nutritious substrate as well.
I'm gonna have a big piece of driftwood in there as the centre piece.
and will have one rock to the side.
in one corner i plan on having h. polysperma.
I need a nice foreground and midground plant... any suggestions?
Other corner will be the filter lol.
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I had some rotala growing in mine with one of those screw-in compact flourescent bulbs. It grew quite well. Might be more of a background plant though. For mid-ground maybe some dwarf sag or some of the valisinerias. The vals would work for a foreground too, just let them grow all the way back to the driftwood. That could look good. They grow fast too. I started with 3 plants and ended up with over 100 in a couple of months. Your tank could be filled in in a couple of weeks.
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Well, i might try dwarf sag for midground, but vals get a little bit big don't they?
after a bit of research i decided to use peat moss over inert soil.
what kind of val is good though?
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To be honest with you, I'm not really sure what kind I had. Heres a pic



I tried googling something but I'm still not certain. Sorry. I've seen it at quite a few lfs in my area. It only grew to around 3" max. Just don't squirt it with excel. Sorry I couldn't help more
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I won't be squirting anything in this tank.After a bit of research, i've decided that i'm going for a 1inch layer of peatmoss, covered by a one inch layer of fine gravel. Chose peat moss because it lowers the ph, and softens the water (insanely hard water here..)
For background, i'll try probably h. polysperma, as stated before, midground will be dwarf sag, and the foreground, will be me attempting a moss carpet.
that,s on the rightside that will be without hte giant piece of driftwood.
Let me get the plans up one sec.
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Whoa, 1" of peat moss is too much!
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0.5" then?
dirftwood will have java moss, i want to get my hands on some anubia, so i can put some at parts on the fdriftwood.
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Hey viettxboii,

You have good plans.

Be careful of adding too much peat moss. It is very messy and has the potential to make your tank extremely tea-coloured. The pH lowering effect of peat moss is also hard to control, so you don't really know how much it will lower by. Another thing is that anaerobic conditions may develop in your substrate bed--creating hydrogen sulfide gas pockets that is toxic for fish if it bubbles up.

If you want to lower your water hardness and pH, the best way is to use RO or RO/DI water mixed with tapwater, then use CO2 to lower the pH and KH. This is easier to control and won't turn your tank tea-coloured. If you are not adding CO2, then just leaving the water as it is will be fine. Plants are highly adaptable and you should be no trouble, it's easier to keep the water parameters stable than trying to adjust it to an 'ideal' level.

For your plant selection (hygro and moss?) the 15 watt should be fine. Excel is an excellent substitute for CO2 for small tanks, it's very effective for enhancing plant growth and has minor algaecidal properties! However, java moss and shrimp are slightly sensitive to excel so be careful of overdosing.

Have fun! Keep us updated!
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I gave this tank to my friend lol.
He has it set up, and he's being lazy with the pictures.
So far it has no fish but according to him plant growth is good.
Substrate is inert very fine gravel, 15 watt spiral, and plants are..
Rotala Rotundfolia, Hygrophila Polysperma, Limnophila Sessiflora, Java moss, and narrow leaved java fern.
I have no clue what the tank looks like atm.
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I got pics from him : D.


He has 15watts of spiral cf over that thing.
Pretty low tech, the growth looks nice.
Any suggestions i can pass onto him?
Stocking so far is nothign aside from snails.
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