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nano cichild tank!? hmm.

Has anyone every tried?

i know cichilds can grow to quite large sizes. but i intend to take them out of my 50g and house them in another small tank with mostly java fern onto wood.

My cichilds are currently no larger than 1.5". and the tank i intend to purchase measures about 18"x12"x12".

any suggestions or advice?
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What kind of cichlids are you talking about? I usually define a nano as about 10 US gallons (about 37 liters) or less, and the tank you're describing would be about 10.5 to 11 gallons. There are a few species of cichlids that could live as a pair in a nano. For example, some of the Nanacara species barely top an inch (2.5 cm), and there are some African shell dwellers that are similar in size. You need to be more specific about the cichlids you're looking at.
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I have been keeping a pair of Pelvicachromis taeniatus in a 12 gallon Eclipse tank. They are healthy but I would guess not particularly happy about having such a small space to live in. The behaviour of dwarf cichlids is much more interesting to observe if they are kept in a larger tank and have more territory at their disposal. I also bred a pair of Pelvicachromis in this tank successfully once I added an overturned flower pot for them to use as a cave. Dwarf Cichlids are bottom dwellers so if you are going to use a small tank the length and depth of the tank is more important than the height.

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I am definetly one for pushing the limits provided that you can keep a healthy tank, but unless you create a tank with a uniqe footprint I can't say I'd advise that one. Even rams and shell dwellers don't do very well in 10s, not to say that people don't do it, but I think that one is iffy, especially if you have seen them behave in a 10 vs a 30. But if you get a tank that is 24" long 9" tall 12" wide, roughly 10 gallons then I would say go to town, in fact that would be sweet!
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Some Tang cichlids are fine in smaller tanks. Many of the shelldwellers do quite fine. A breeding pair of Brevis can be in a 5.5gl actually, mostly becaue their territories are so small they rarely even travel far enough away from their shell to need a 10gl. For 10gl min, a pair of gold N. Occies or N. Multies are quite fine.


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yes, there are some options. Shell dwellers are the first ones to come to mind. You could even have a single pelviachromis pulcher (kribensis). Two would get into territory issues though. Same goes for a blue or bolivian ram I would think.

Also, does anyone know if a badis badis is a cichlid? (not sure I'm spelling that right) I know they're small and pretty neat fish.

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Looks like they might not actually be cichlids
http://www.aquahobby.com/gallery/e_badis.php
http://fins.actwin.com/aquatic-plant.../msg00121.html

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Some Tang cichlids are fine in smaller tanks. Many of the shelldwellers do quite fine. A breeding pair of Brevis can be in a 5.5gl actually, mostly becaue their territories are so small they rarely even travel far enough away from their shell to need a 10gl. For 10gl min, a pair of gold N. Occies or N. Multies are quite fine.
I would disagree. I have a 150 tang tank with
(4) Altolamprologus calvus Ink Fin
(4) Altolamprologus calvus White Chaitika
(3) Altolamprologus compressiceps Black Nangu
(4) Altolamprologus compressiceps Malasa Gold Head
(3) Altolamprologus compressiceps Red Lufubu

(5) Cyprichromis leptosoma Malasa
(4) Cyprichromis leptosoma Utinta
(6) Cyprichromis sp. Assorted Cyps
(4) Lamprologus brevis Katabe
(3) Lamprologus brevis Namansi “Sunspot”
(4) Lamprologus ocellatus Gold
(3) Syn Petricola
(2) Mustache cats

and my Brevis occupy a area that is about 25" square. They are constantly "on patrol" of their "base camp".

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I had a baby cichlid grow in a small 3 gallon nano for a while till I upgraded him/her to a 20g. It seemed to be doing fine... I barely did water changes either. But that cichlid was a strong fish, but sad that I don't have a cichilid tank as it killed a lot of my other fishes in my 55 community.
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Hi all,

thanks for the responses.

i plan on keeping vittatus shell cichilds. https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/my..._vittatus.html

what do you guys think?
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I'd say those grow too large for that tank. Nine centimeters, if that's accurate, is almost four inches.
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I think for a 10 gallon, you're recommended to keep to multis, similis, or brevis.

Multies stay small, form multi-generational colonies, and are best introduced in a group of 6 or so. You may need to remove males if they get kicked out of the colony. Multies like LOTS of shells. LOTS and LOTS of shells. They come from an area with hard water where shells never dissolve, and might be 10' or more deep. The more shells, the more comfortable and active they'll be.

Similies are similiar to multies, but more aggressive. 1m 2f would be good. They also like a nice, deep shell bed.

Brevis come from an area where shells are less common, so they've learned to cohabitate. A male and female couple will often share the same shell, and are supposed to be the best shelldweller for a 5gallon tank because they usually stay very close to their shell. They like a sandy substrate so they can bury the shell they're using down to the opening, I think, and maybe bury ones they're not using so they can dig them up later. No more than 1m 1f in a 5 gallon. I'm not sure about a 10.
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I have two Dario dario (aka Scarlett Badis I believe) in my 2.5 gallon. They don't bother each other too much, they have staked off their own areas.
They are neat little fish, and they are maximum of 1" long, if that.
They look (to me, at least) just like little Cichlids, they are curious and hover all around the tank, tending to stay above the ground or on driftwood limbs but they swim around a little bit too.
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Nope, they are not cichlids. Though they do have some physical and behavioral resemblance. Pretty neat little suckers from everything I've heard.
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