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Critique, ideas, comments on 10G planted

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Thanks to many ppl here, I have gotten a good start to my low-tech 10G plant only tank. Its 3 weeks old. Please comment on how to improve the landscaping, which plants to add or move. Also am worried how long before the riccia starts floatiing out. Right now its growing nicely on the driftwood.





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Looks nice man! When you say low tech and Riccia in one sentence (or two...) I am getting worried. Low tech as in low light, no CO2 and no ferts, or as in high light, no CO2 and "we'll see what to do about ferts"?

For sure there are a lot of plants in there, excellent start. I'd wait a little while and see what grows how, and then start the 'scaping once things have settled it.


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Looks nice man! When you say low tech and Riccia in one sentence (or two...) I am getting worried. Low tech as in low light, no CO2 and no ferts, or as in high light, no CO2 and "we'll see what to do about ferts"?

For sure there are a lot of plants in there, excellent start. I'd wait a little while and see what grows how, and then start the 'scaping once things have settled it.
Its more like - 36W NO Flourescent, DIY CO2, Flourish excel and 'we'll see what to do about ferts?" I guess its not exactly 'low-tech'; more like 'cheap tech'. The entire setup cost me like $40, and a bag of flourite was the most expensive item!

Actually all the plants except the dwarf hairgrass is growing like crazy. And thankfully no algae. I have already pruned and replanted twice.

The important question I am facing is - whether to add fish or shrimp (RCS)? Or neither... since there isnt much algae in there yet for the shrimp to feed on anyway. The second thing I am looking for is a plant to create some contrast - and be a focus point...

Any ideas would be appreciated.
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36 watts over 10 gallon is kinda high light. i would replace the riccia with some moss since riccia tends to get messy, nice look though. trim the hairgrass a bit to encourage growth and don't let the floating plants shade them.

RCS will be fine for a tank that's been running for 3 weeks. i put mine inside at the 2nd day


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....The second thing I am looking for is a plant to create some contrast - and be a focus point...
Any ideas would be appreciated.
I keep posting about this plant this but cannot say enough about it. Get a tiger lotus for contrast, don't put in more than one(as it will grow so quickly that your entire surface area will be covered full of leaves and), get ready to prune like crazy. I placed a few of these in my 10 gallon low tech, low maintenance tank, these grew quicker than any other plant in the tank. Growth was so explosive that I had to place some of these tiger lotus plants in my 40 gallon. Interestingly, my 40 gallon has black beard algae and string algae, and the leaves of the Tiger Lotus have not been effected for weeks. The plants in the 40 gallon are still growing like weeds. This is one of the few reddish/pinkish plants that you will find that are not too particular re: c02 injection and iron rich substrate or fertilization. They grow from bulb.

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I keep posting about this plant this but cannot say enough about it. Get a tiger lotus for contrast, don't put in more than one(as it will grow so quickly that your entire surface area will be covered full of leaves and), get ready to prune like crazy. I placed a few of these in my 10 gallon low tech, low maintenance tank, these grew quicker than any other plant in the tank. Growth was so explosive that I had to place some of these tiger lotus plants in my 40 gallon. Interestingly, my 40 gallon has black beard algae and string algae, and the leaves of the Tiger Lotus have not been effected for weeks. The plants in the 40 gallon are still growing like weeds. This is one of the few reddish/pinkish plants that you will find that are not too particular re: c02 injection and iron rich substrate or fertilization. They grow from bulb.

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Tiger Lotus - I checked it out, looks great. Doesnt it get too big for a 10G? How big are the surface leaves? I was looking at prices - most retailers sell it for about $10!!
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Tiger Lotus - I checked it out, looks great. Doesnt it get too big for a 10G? How big are the surface leaves? I was looking at prices - most retailers sell it for about $10!!

If you don't keep the leaves pruned, huge leaves will grow out and the leaves will grow and eventually block too much light from the surface of your 10 gallon. If you prune regularly, this will not happen. And if you prune it will force the plant to remain compact. In my experience these will work fine for a 10 gallon as long as you don't put in more than one and remain vigilant about pruning the leaves. And don't worry, you won't miss the leaves as this plant produces leaves are crazy. The ones I got were part of the aquariumplants grow your own bulbs packages(the package also includes madagascar lace plants and apongenton bulbs).
http://www.aquariumplants.com/Grow_Y...Bulbs_s/29.htm

I got 100% germination of all bulbs and all are growing great. Despite my problems with them on other issues, I would continue to buy the bulbs from them. When you do the math, with a 100% germinaton you are looking at $35-40 in plants. There package of bulbs goes for $10 for 2 packages of bulbs - that's a steal even with extra paid for shipping. A single fully grown tiger lotus sells for $10 in my city, an apongenton plant sells for $10, and a madagascar lace plant sells for about $15(that does not include taxes).
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Tiger Lotus in a 10gal is a bit of a risk... True, some specimens stay small and humble, but when they go, they grow. I had some take over my 100gal tank, with leaves that exceeded 12inches length (just the leafy part!), and I did religiously remove all of their to-be-floaters leaves. And their root growth can be overwhelming. I guess it is like with Swords... they can stay small in a small tank, but you never know when they go on a growing trip.


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Tigers are a bit big for tens.
They are also pretty hard to scape correctly, as they make a huge impact.

Just FYI, my tiger lotus in my pond is about 4 feet in diameter an the floating leaves(the only leaves) are about 6" in diameter.

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Tigers are a bit big for tens.
They are also pretty hard to scape correctly, as they make a huge impact.

Just FYI, my tiger lotus in my pond is about 4 feet in diameter an the floating leaves(the only leaves) are about 6" in diameter.
OMG!!
Thats huge.
Does anyone have any alternatives for a centerpiece?
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crinum natans.


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crinum natans.
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Crinum natans

Crinum natans Crinum natans is a very beautiful and graceful bulbous plant with dark-green leaves which grows to a height of 50-150cm and a width of 20-30cm. Plant so the top 2/3 of the bulb is visible. When the plant grows older (if it is thriving) it sometimes forms small bulbs and sends a flower stem up to the water surface with a beautiful and aromatic lily flower. The plant varies considerably in leaf width and the shape of the leaf margin. It is also suitable for indoor ponds and is not eaten by herbivorous fish."

Source: http://www.aquazoo.co.uk/index1297.html

Seems to me crapman that you will be damned if you do and damned if you don't. Depends on how much crap(no pun intended) you are prepared to deal with. If you allow tiger lotus or any other fast growing plant unpruned, it will eventually outgrow your tank. If you are looking for an effortless centre piece plant, perhaps long leaf java fern, which will grow very slowly and not require pruning. The reality though is that the fast growing plants are really best at keeping algae at bay, especially if you are just starting out.

Good luck, whatever you decide.
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an easy plant making a nice touch with a bit of color is crypt. wentii brown or red.

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