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OK so I have my 3g eclipse completed (hopefully). I am using the original hood and filter, along with a 20w compact flourescant (screw-in w/self-ballast, just upgraded from 10w). no C02 added for now, but adding flourish-excel, flourish, and leaf-zone. plants are some glossostigma directly under the light, rotala indica, rotala magenta, green cabomba, and java ferns (ferns and cabomba have been in tank about 2 months, just added the others). substrate is small-sized black gravel with flora root mixed in

temperature with 20w gets about 85-90 during day - ugh - with hood flap slightly open but not too concerned as this will be moved to colder-AC office very soon (my apt is 80-85 during day). I probably wont need a heater but will determine once I move the tank. I am running filter with bio-wheel still, no filter pad, but with some foam over the filter intake to keep debris out.

I have 3 snails in now (2 small red ramshorn, one unidentified "spiral/cone"). I will be adding a few more, plus a couple ghost shrimp, and maybe but still undecided on a couple dwarf crayfish (concerned they may dig everything up) or else a dwarf puffer.

all seems fine (tho only 5days since adding additional plants). however I am undecided whether to keep the 20w or put back on the 10w that I previously had on there. not sure if keeping the 20w will be overkill (10w seems too little and 20w too much??) and whether it will require additional CO2 with the 20w than the excel? and for filter would the foam over the intake be sufficient or should I maybe add the standard-eclipse filter pad, or maybe some other filter material in a small bag placed in the filter compartment? (I'm only concerned with filter if I add puffer or crayfish)

yeah a few questions but any/all suggestions appreciated

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if withuot CO2, i think 10W is enough.
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The spiral/cone snail sounds like a MTS (Malaysian Trumpet Snail).

Perhaps you could go for a happy medium with the light and add a 15 watt bulb instead. It's more likely that the Flourish Excel will be enough with this amount of light. At 20 watts I think you almost need to add DIY CO2 in order to keep things balanced.

Not sure why you're adding both Flourish and LeafZone. They're both Trace/Micro mixes. I'd stick to the Flourish and ditch the LeafZone, since most agree that the Flourish products are much better quality. Are you planning to pick up any Macro nutrients? I would think that you would want Potassium at a minimum regardless, and probably Nitrate and Phosphate if you don't end up adding the fish.


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well I have the leaf zone already for my 29g planted and bought the flourish and excel for the 3g. As I understand it the Leaf Zone adds Iron and potassium, the excel adds the carbon, and the flourish adds other elements. I dont beleive the flourish adds potassium or significant iron.

also I believe the "screw-in self-ballasted" CF bulbs only come in 20w and 10w.
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My mistake on the Leaf Zone. I'd always seen it bunched in with the Trace Ferts and never looked at the ingredients. Flourish comprehensive should have plenty of Iron, but a little extra from the Leaf Zone along with it's Potassium should work well.

The CF bulbs come in many other sizes. I believe that Walmart is a common place to find them.


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My mistake on the Leaf Zone. I'd always seen it bunched in with the Trace Ferts and never looked at the ingredients. Flourish comprehensive should have plenty of Iron, but a little extra from the Leaf Zone along with it's Potassium should work well.

The CF bulbs come in many other sizes. I believe that Walmart is a common place to find them.
yeah leaf-zone was an early purchase of mine and still have plenty left. if and when it runs out I will get a kent or seachem equivalent.

AH good 'ol walmart. never thought to look for the CF bulbs anywhere else but a fish store (duh). walmart will have them self-ballasted, screw-in, 6500K?
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Varies by Walmart as to exactly what they have. Some have the daylight bulbs that would be the appropriate spectrum while others might not. I believe that there is a specific brand you want to look for, but I can't remember it off of the top of my head.


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MTS (Malaysian Trumpet Snail) -- yeah, probably. havent seen it since I first saw it, it came in with one of the new plants.

went to walmart, picked up a 2-pack of 15w 6500 CF "twist" bulbs, and paid 1/2 what I paid for the one 20w at the LFS. however, the base/ballast is a bit larger and doesnt fit my hood - where I have the socket, the ballast sits right on top of the middle brace of the eclipse and raises the top up a bit. now I gotta figure if I want to re-position the socket (both the 20w and 10w fit so fine)... UGH it never ends
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