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Starting a 10g Apisto/Ram Tank.. Looking for Ideas! :)

I finally decided to use one of my 'old' 10 gallon tanks lying around and make it into a low tech nano. I want to put some kind of Apistos or Rams in it.

I am thinking of the following set up

Equipment
Substrate: Yet to be decided! (Eco or Fluorite? or something else?)
Lighting : 32W CF (6700+10000K Dual)
CO2 : Excel (Good idea?)
Filtration: Sponge (or none? or HOB?)
Fertilizers: None

Flora
Crypts (I havent yet picked any,would love to get suggestions)
Java Fern (Broad Leaf)

Fauna
Some kind of Apisto ? Shell Dwellers? Any other suitable cichlid?

What kind of cichlid can I put in the 10G? I want atleast a pair, hate to keep fish bytehmselves

Also, what kind of plants would be good (other than the crypts?)

And (I know I cant stop asking questions), what kind of substrate (or mix) would be good?

Thanks a ton !
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If you are going low-tech I wouldn't use excel at all, otherwise I suggest DIY yeast. It isn't too hard to maintain good levels of CO2 on a small tank. I use small HOB filters for ten gallon tanks, aquaclear filters are good if you go that route. If setting up a ten gallon today I would use soilmaster(Because it's cheap and I have some) or aquasoil(because it is supposed to be the best). You will probably need some sort of fertilizer. Micros for sure and maybe some macros just in case you need it. Seachem ferts wouldn't be too expensive for a small tank. I have a pair of blue rams in a ten gallon and absolutely love them. It has 2x15w NO fluorescent bulbs, eco-complete, and co2. Java fern, xmas moss, java moss, red wendtii crypt, rotala rotundifolia, bacopa caroliniana, bacopa monnieri, anubias, and lilaeopsis brasiliensis have all grown really well for me in that tank.
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if you can finda crypt balansae, i would go with that for the background. such a beautiful plant.
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Hey guys

Thanks for your inputs! I have a 20L that gets a ton of ferts, I was hoping I wouldnt need to fert the 10g *sigh*. I'm going to either go for aquasoil or eco-complete for the substrate.

yoink, do you have DIY CO2 in your 10g planted? Do you have a diffusor or a reactor of some sort?

I'm still thinking about a pair of a.cac ... too ambitious?

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i wouldn't put a pair in a 10 gal personally, they are cichlids and one usually gets harassed to death. Cacs, in my experience are especially aggressive. However, one apisto will do nicely with a few tetras and maybe a couple corydoras. They behave better with other fish than they do each other.
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I am amazed my cacs are sweethearts.

Whats your water like?
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The water out in the east bay is usually soft, but my tap water has a GH of about 100ppm. I was hoping to peat-soften the water

OK, so an a.cac pair is sorta ruled out for now. Maybe a.borelli?

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I wouldn't put a Ram in a 10g. At the least, I would say a 20g. 30g is what is recommended.
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yoink, do you have DIY CO2 in your 10g planted? Do you have a diffusor or a reactor of some sort?
This one has pressurized CO2, but I have three other ten gallons similarly set up with DIY.
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And go with ada aquasoil as your substrate, you will not be dissapointed. It is easy for you to get (living in the bay) and about the same price as the other substrates mentioned.


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Hey Ian, where can i get ADA aquasoil from (Around the bay, you said?)?
The shrimps I got from you are doing awesome ! Lotsa tiny shrimp all over my tank now!

Yoink, you said you had DIY CO2, do you use a diffusor of some kind, or a ladder?

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