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Question "Showcase" Fish Suggestions?

Howdy! Been reading up a lot on aquaria in general and FW nanos in particular for the last few months, and am lucky enough to live somewhere with two great resources (even if they're night and day in their approaches!) - Ocean & AquaForest in SF.

Eager to start my first planted nano here soon and like the idea of a balanced ecotope w/ plants & critters for each niche. I plan on getting a shrimp or two (probably Cherries); an Oto; 4 smaller hardy schooling fish, like Endler's (but am open to suggestion) - and finally, 1 or 2 "showcase" fish of some sort...

- What nano-friendly fish like to be kept with one/no other member of its own kind? I was orginally into the idea of Dwarf Puffers, but given their carnivorousness it's probably not a good idea with the shrimp and any Endler's fry that may come along. Advise?

- For a tank, was considering either an Odyssea/Jebo 7 or the Finnex 8, or something thereabouts. Any recommendations/warnings?

(thanks in advance! I love this forum and only plan on getting more active... )

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Blue Rams and other small american cichlids are very colourful and can go in 10 gallon min. tanks i reckon. Thats my opinion, you might be able to get them into smaller tanks. How big were you thinking of? Im not familiar with the size of the tanks labelled.

If by show you meant active and lively instead of colour, i'd go for something like a pair of guppies or platies but they too have colour sometimes. If you get male and female watch out for spawn, they're crazy. One of my mollies got pregnant in the bag on the way home.
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Dwarf Neon Gourami is the star of my tank.
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"Showcase" Fish

Thankya for the quick replies-

Livebearer101, thanks for the Cichlid suggestion. Given their specific water parameters it seems a bit challenging to find suitable tankmates for 'em, but they're definitely nice looking fish; are Blue Ras very territorial? (Also, the tanks mentioned are 7 and 8 gallons respectively.) Also, White Clouds were the other ones I considered alongside Endlers for a smaller shoaling fish... curious to hear any thoughts you might have, pro or con.

Matthew - I'd like to see that Dwarf neon Gourami! It's funny how many of us San Franciscans are on here...
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Want a showcase fish? Get a bigger tank.

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Want a showcase fish? Get a bigger tank.
yeah thats too true. dont add anything more. especially because its an endler shimp tank... you could get a few dwarf corry cats those are cool... or maybe a beta. but its not a smart idea.

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re: "...Get a bigger tank" - I'm definitely keeping an eye on the bioload here, and when I say 'showcase' suppose I should also qualify that in terms of size, like 'small showcase fish'.

In a heavily planted 8 gallon tank, though, it seems to me that a shrimp, oto, and 4 Endlers would [maybe] leave room for one or two other occupants - or is this foolish? I'm also not just gonna throw 'em all in at once, mind you.

Plan B was going to be along the lines of a 12 gallon, but I opted for something simpler/smaller because of potential moving considerations I might have in the near future.
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Ohhhh.....well even though I am sure you already fully aware of the benefits of a bigger tank, I had to suggest it anyway. However, the fish I am suggesting should be singular or in pairs/trios: Endler's, show quality guppies, a nice Gardneri killifish, and maybe some shrimp. Leave plenty of room. I would definitely not go over 4 inches of fish, excluding a few shrimp, unless you got the 12, which adds a little (not much) leeway. If I were you, however, I would buy at least a 29 gallon for show quality fish, even if they are small. If I spend a lot of money on a good fish, which I seldom do, I would try to put it in the largest tank I have the capacity to provide.

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Rams are the most peaceful cichlids to me. I don't see any problems in getting rams.
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a pair of killies. like these...

http://www.killies.com/gallaustraleorange.htm

i had a pair in a 10 gallon with some dwarf corys (habrosus), some otos, and a small school of tetras. they did great. they like to stay still and display themselves too, unlike tetras, that is, when the male isn't busy trying to serenade the female.
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The rams are good so long as you only have one male and one female. I've got 2 females and one males and the females can really get after each other. Also when they spawn they'll make sure the other fish are not near the eggs and that may be difficult in tanks so small. Mind you they are aggressive but not violent, I don't think they even touch the other fish. Just scare them away but they are nice fish.

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I'd say scrap the Endler's for something that does a better job of schooling, such as micro or Brigitte's/mosquito rasboras. As for a showcase tank, a nice pair of smaller apistos such as A. borelli would work, or if you want something a bit more peaceful, take a look at the scarlet Badis badis.

The above fish are quite small themselves and would make the tank look larger than it is.

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Wow - those killies are really nice lookin'. How big does Aphyosemion australe Orange get?

Interesting behavioral note about the rams - that's exactly the kind of stuff I need, because it seems that the books and LFS always manage to omit one or two superficially minor behavioral points with sad consequences later on.

re: Scrapping the Endlers - how hardy are these rasboras? Because despite being maybe a bit ambitious here, I also must acknowledge that I'm really a novice, so anything I get (at first) should be fairly tolerant of possible newbie mistakes. White Clouds also appealed to me because they're schoolers and because of their wide temperature and water tolerance, for example.

(looks like I may already have to do at least a couple planted nanos at this point... heh! My girlfriend is gonna be so thrilled about that.)
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What about a sparkling, croaking, licorice, or chocolate gouramis. I know I have a couple chocolates in my 30, and they are easily the most personable fish in there. Very cute, very docile, and leave my cherry shrimp alone.


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Another reason I love this hobby - the species names. Croaking Gourami... what a great name!

It seems the Striped Croaking and Licorice Gouramis can get up to about 3", which may be about an inch or so too much, but they're really beautiful specimens. Sparkling Gouramis (apparently a pygmy Croaking G.?) are more like it size-wise. It seems a bit fragile though, and while not totally hellbent on it would prefer livebearers of some sort, I think.

Also, I've been finding references to Cichlids chowing down on Cherry Shrimp - this true of Blue Rams too?
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