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Cool Grassland planted tank

I work for a marine supply place online, and I've never been interested in fish. In fact, since working here, my interests have diminished completely as I've heard so many problems about their tank.

This was saltwater. I've recently seen freshwater tanks, and I must say they are gorgeous, and I've been told MUCH easier to maintain.

Anyway, so now I'm totally excited to get a tank, and I have it all invisioned in my head. The tank will be kept here at work, in that, we can only have up to 12 gallon tanks. I will get a 12 gallon nano, and I want the foreground to have a dense grass field that should consume about 1/2 the tank. In my head I have a pump making the grass wave as if there was a wind. Maybe a tree-like plant in the center of the grass field. In the back, I want something like a rainforest enviroment.

I was looking through the site, and it seems the Dwarf Hairgrass is what I want to go for with the foreground grass. Am I right? A few questions for you guys here:

1) Is it possible?
2) Will this look good? Or will it look like crap?
3) What will I need to get?
4) How much should it cost, do you think?

I don't want a thick bunch of plants in the back, rather, a few that look cool, and hang here and there, like a rainforest-type thing. I figure, if I do the grass in the front, and plant setup in back, I can concentrate on one or the other at any given time if I feel like it.

Advise please.
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The "wave effect" will need a powerful filter, which most fish don't like.
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The "wave effect" will need a powerful filter, which most fish don't like.
Shouldn't a small pump do the trick for a "grass in the wind" effect? By all means you probably know more than me, I'm just making sure you know my intentions.

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1. Anything is possible.
2. Anything can look good . . . . if done correctly I think it would look sweet
3. Have you done any researching? If so, narrow your question down a bit! If not . . . .
4. Hard to say, but an estimate:
-JBJ 12 gallon deluxe aquarium comes with filter and lights. $169 on sale.
-you will need to change a bulb from the actinic to 6-10,000K.
-substrate (fluorite or ecocomplete are cheap in that amount) $20
-Some fertilizers, Seachem is a good choice for smaller tanks.
-a heater $20
-plants ($?)
So a VERY low-ball estimate would be $250 bucks. You could go cheaper of course, there are always ways to cut corners . . .

Oh yea, the wavy grass . . . . I've never had dwarf hairgrass, but I'm absolutely sure that you could find a way to put some current through the grass. Might just take a little DIY plumbing, or an extra pump, but it's definitely possible!
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1. Anything is possible.
and that is the answer everyone is looking for

but, being a newbie myself and not even havin a planted tank yet, I think it is important to realize what you're getting into. I believe it's two ways to do this; try running it with a "gut" feeling, and then learn as you go, which is what I plan to do at first, which may or may not work. Problem is that if something goes wrong you're kind of screwed... Or, learning as much as you can before you start. Which is, of course, the better way. But takes a lot of time and planning before you can even start setting up a tank.

Your idea of the grass in front sounds nice. But really, the feeling of seing your plants grow and the beatiful pearling is enough... A live tank, made by yourself, is better than the best pictures I don't think you need the wavy grass. Then again, it's nothing wrong with trying new ideas, it might just be a bit more difficult than anticipated...

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Make sure you get the right sort of hairgrass as well. There are plenty of types of dwarf hairgrass and some dont carpet very. I suggest getting some hygrophilia polysperma, you can trim it regulary and create other little 'trees'. Good luck with it.
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there is a device you might be able to get at your office called a SCWD. it hooks up to a power head and splits it into two returns. only one return will operate at a time. you could plumb it so the out lets come around to both sides of the tank facing the middle. this would probably approximate your waving grass if you tried it.

another option would be a powersweep powerhead. <-- gotta keep it clean!

the problem I would think, is that power heads create turbulence in the water, which translates to the surface, and surface agitation is the enemy of CO2, which your plants most desperately want.
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If you're serious about wave action, do a search on "carlson surge device", or just "surge device".

www.reefs.org have lots of discussions about these, as they're good for reef wave action.
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I was just wandering is 12 gallon classed as a nano? Aren't nanos meant to be small or does it mean something else?
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A real nano, literaly, Is about as big as the period right here.
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It will be more than possible with a small powerhead. I do not suggest adding the rainforest type thing in the back, though, as it is likely to look cramped. I would just do the hairgrass and "tree."

In college....so no aquariums for a while.....
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