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Fish and plants for an inch of water?

I want to try something new (or at least, new for me). The idea is to have an extremely shallow (1" to 2" deep) aquarium spread out over a large area (maybe 23" by 18").

First I need to find suitable plants. I would prefer them to stay submerged. However a little emergent growth would be ok for some areas.

Second, I need to find suitable fish that can comfortable live in this environment. Then there is the thought of shrimp if no fish can be used or to live in this environment with the fish.

Last of all, this would be mostly low to mid tec.

Any ideas? Thanks for reading!
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At least 4 inches bro. Any less and you might as well just go emersed.

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I believe that is way to shallow for any fish! You could always build like an island type deal? Using a little bit of sand & gradually increasing the amount of incline as you move up
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Maybe some small minnows? Or cories/aspidoras. Just throwing ideas out there...

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I agree 1" seems pretty shallow, 4" would be better, Least Killifish would work well I think. Cool little fish. Another possibility are the Everglades Pygmy Sunfish, but they are super picky eaters and really need live food.
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Instead of substrate, I think the most you could do at that depth would be moss on screens attached to the bottom. The only things I could think of for that type of setup would be shrimp
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Bettas i think would be fine.
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To all of you who gave some ideas, THANKS!

For those of you who said "it can't be done, it wouldn't work, theres no way", get creative!!!

As for plant life, couldn't one split open a marimo ball and lay it flat? I don't know why I didn't think of that sooner.
Hemianthus callitrichoides (as tropicalmackdaddy suggested) could work growing a little out of the water. How tall would that get?
Kehy, not a bad idea about the moss. The shortest one is dwarf Fissidens?

Of the animals mentioned, I see minnows and cherrie shrimp as the best choice for the moment. They are easily available and simple to care for. It would be interesting to see them in that environment.
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Start a journal ASAP, sounds really cool! If viewed from above I love seeing little schools of minnows in streams. You wouldn't be able to see the real colors so it doesn't especially matter what they look like. But a large minnow would be nice.

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Bettas i think would be fine.
Bettas are too big for one inch of water.

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One concern I just thought of would be tempeture fluctuations. 1 inch of water will heat up or cool down much faster than say 4" of the same volume. I don't think it would be humane of put fish in those conditions. Personally, I'd go with a shallow 6", but wide (book shelf type maybe) for more stable conditions.
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i'll second elassoma if you don't mind the live food requirement. similarly, any of the west african killifish of the aphosemian type (vs nothos) would be very comfortable in that set up, as would the american rivulus type killies. all these need live food (although i'm sure the gardneri morphs would take to flake food, of these the 'misaje', 'jos plateau' and 'P82' are all eye-poppingly colorful).

the nomenclature on the killies just went through a second huge revision in the last decade or so. i'm still not fully brushed up on all the new names, but these old names will get you off to a good start on a search engine.

and lest anyone cry "fish cruelty", know that the word killifish comes from the dutch "puddle fish". many spend their entire lives in a couple of inches of water in seasonal mud puddles. the american rivulus adapted to the overcrowded conditions of puddles on the rainforest floor by spending a lot of time on land. they "sun" on sticks or leaves above the surface, and will climb the glass of your tank to go for a 'walk about', so a good tight fitting lid is essential. at least one species of rivulus can spend a whole month out of the water as long as they don't dry out (scientists kept them on moist sphagnum moss). the elassoma are not killies, but very much puddle fish from florida, and can take huge temperature swings, as well as the instability of small bodies of water.

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dealing with evaporation is going to be a pita
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