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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 05-27-2005, 06:15 PM Thread Starter
 
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questions on filtration

What type of filtration is needed for a good quality water in a small planted tank? You need to filter out the particles and provide surface area for beneficial bacteria to breed right? Do you need carbon or other stuff like that? And obviously need to have water movement... anything else nessessary?

Too much surface agitation gets rid of CO2 so it should be kept to a minimum right?

I am thinking of having a custom 1gish tank made that will have all equipment hidden so I can enjoy just looking at a natural (small) tank. I also have to remember to try to keep things as simple as possible so the maintance doesn't get too complicated.
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Work in a sponge like a small aquaclear one and leave some space for adding polyfiber when needed. How do you plant to incorporate the filter into the tank?? a la Nano-cube?

Is this going to be for just plants?

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I was thinking of having the back part of the tank sectioned off for filtration. I am thinking of having a sponge and floss at least in the back compartment for remove debris. There will also be a small pump to return the water back to the front.

I need to figure out the dimensions of a small pump to use so I can decide on the size the back compartment. I might test out the design on a junky tank I have to see how it does though before spending money on a custom made one.
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Hey Mothi,
Why complicate your life? On the one hand you are saying you want to keep things simple and then on the other hand you want to do all that construction for a 1 gallon tank??? Have you forgotten the part about the fact that you will already have some pretty good filters in the tank? they are called "plants". Put a small sponge filter in the back, hide it with the aquascape and get on with growing your plants.

Forget about carbon. Carbon removes elements that your plants need.

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I want upkeep to be simple as well as accessability to doing cleanings. I also want a visually appealing tank without looking at the equipment, thus creating a back compartment for the filtration.

I don't mind a little work on setting it up the way I want it to be. I had to do alot of custom work for my 2.5g saltwater tank, but all the work and thought put into it paid off with an easy to maintain tank (excluding having a good cover on the filter/refugium which half a year later crashed the tank when roofers knocked materials into the tank when working on the roof).

I could use the old equipment I have left to redo the 2.5g, but at this time I am thinking of having a smaller tank on my desk so I have more room on my desk... but again, I am still planning... I am not in any rush since a well thought out tank will be more rewarding than one slapped together quickly.
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I also want a visually appealing tank without looking at the equipment, thus creating a back compartment for the filtration. .... a well thought out tank will be more rewarding than one slapped together quickly ...
OK, I'll buy that part, so fine, but a sponge filter will work just as well in it's own compartment in that size tank. I'm just having trouble conceiving of upkeep difficulty in a 1 gallon tank. I run a 150g high tech tank and that's difficult. I mean, other than the possibility that you'll spill all the water over your desk when you stick your hand in the tank what's the accessibility difficulty?

In any case have you thought about fertilization? You didn't mention that in your post. You ought to be fine with a combination of the Seachem or other commercial products. They won't break the bank with that size. Flourish, Nitrogen, Potassium, and Phosphorus and Excel should cover the bases and you could think about adding Equilibrium if you have soft tap water.

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missed the 1g part. Thats a lot of work for such a small tank. Do you have a pump small enough not to cause a wirlwind in the tank?

IMO I'd be simpler just to go with a Red Sea nano HOB filter or a really small internal filter (Hagen Elite) but I'm thinking thats not what you want to hear.


ceg4048 idea of just covering the internal filter with some plants sounds like the best and easiest idea for such a tiny tank.

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