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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 05-23-2012, 03:53 AM Thread Starter
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From dry start to shrimp

About to flood my 8 gal tank. This is my first planted tank
It is Iwagumi style with HC and DHG going for almost 7weeks.
I was wondering if anyone has some advice on flooding it and getting it ready for some shrimp eventually.
I belive I have everything ready
Ferts, DIY co2, used Eco-complete for substrate.
Not real sure on the exact cycle process for a shrimp tank.?.
Thanks in advance.
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What kind of shrimp were you planning on? you can always do a fishless cycle with ammonia or "ghost feeding" the tank. as for filling the tank, whenever I fill a tank with loose muddy substrate or plants I don;t want to uproot I take a good old paper plate and set it in the tank and pour the water onto it. It works rather well.
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Because this is my first tank I am going to go with cherry shrimp.
How many can I put in a 8 gallon?

Also should I get more plants to help with the cycling?

I was planning on using a paper plate to fill it.

What is the fishless cycle?
Also I have a very tough beta and apple snails I could use to cycle if needed
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You could rock an easy 40 shrimp in a 8 gallon. More if you want.
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Great. Thank for the info
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Any ideas On where to get a cheap but good paintball co2 regulator setup? Preferably one I can set on a timer.
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Flooded my tank a week ago today adding liquid ferts regularly. HC is pearling and lots of new growth. I am battling a white stringy algae/bacteria and cloudy water now. Any suggestions? I guess this is normal?
The tank has still not started cycling and the ammonia level is 0. Any help getting thing started would be great.
I would add fish but because or the DIY CO2 I am afraid they would die quickly.
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What ammonia source did you add? You must add either pure ammonia or fish food to start a fishless cycle. I see here

http://www.aquariumadvice.com/forums...ng-148283.html

http://www.fishlore.com/fishforum/fr...ess-cycle.html

http://www.fishforums.net/aquarium-calculator.htm

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I just throw some tough as nails fish like zerbra danios or white cloud minnows to cycle. When nitrites and ammonia hit 0, take the fish out and it's ready for shrimp.

Pball setups are dangerous as is from what I heard....woudln't try and set a timer to em. A cheap system can be bought from Nilocg for under $60. Works great. You need to buy your own pball c02 tank tho


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I think i'll use pure ammonia. I have my co2 high for the HC.
here are some pics. I guess from what I've read the algae is normal.

please let me know what you think

day 1 after filled


week later after filled


algae growing - was bright white at first now turning brown

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Great lookin tank. Algae is real hard to get rid of, and everyone has problems when the tank is first set up. The nutrients and everything are way out of whack, and the tank needs to mature. Though, you should take steps to controlling it. Ensure you have proper ferts, co2 and when dealing with aglae, most importantly, lighting. More light does not mean better results.

You may want to look into pressurized co2. DIY co2 will actually cause more algae problems, as the co2 levels fluctuate so much.

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I believe I have the ferts down. One of the other members (nilocg) customized some liquid ferts macro and micro for my tank for me.
I might be using too much light. I use the LED setup that came with the tank for 12hrs and in the middle a CF lamp for 4 hrs to give a noon burst. I will cut down to 8 hrs this week and see what happens unless anyone suggest something else. Like I said earlier I have DIY CO2 and it is pushing a lot out right now. Should I cut it down some or will that only mach the algae worse? I have a real co2 setup and on hold for me at a welding shop but I can buy it until I get the $2500 to fix my ride. already got the solenoid.
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Cutting down the co2 will make it worse. You want your drop checker to be greenish-yellow, monitor your fish closely.

Stable levels of co2 will stop algae, lower co2 will only do harm, unless the co2 is extremely high.
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