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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 12-12-2011, 09:53 PM Thread Starter
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Rookie in need of help

Here is my tank


its been up for almost a 3 weeks
temp is a constant 75

Lighting
AquaticLife T5 fixture (On for 8hrs)
Marineland double bright LED fixture (On for 4hrs)

Is 12hrs of lighting okay?

I do 12hrs because i dont like the tank being dark and figure the LED are doing next to nothing but i want to make sure

Filters
Aqua Clear 20
Eheim Aquaball with spray-bar attachment

Overkill?
I was thinking about removing the Aquaball but like the way it circulates the water

Plants

these guys are doing great


my Dwarf Highgrass (Eleocharis acicularis) is on the mend now that i have CO2 via Fluval mini system

but

my Dwarf Baby Tears (Hemianthus callitrichoides) are ugly


Anyone recommend a better ground cover?

Glass lids- are they necessary?
first attempt at drilling glass


how often should you do a WC?
please go easy with the abbreviations, i'm new here

Fish
5 neon tetras
2 cherry tetras
1 julie cory
1 cherry shrimp
2 guppies ( for my son, i want to get rid of them but they keep thinks fun)

Please let me know what i'm doing wrong. i'd love to bring the Baby Tears back from this state. i'll do a water change today as well as move the plant next to the wisteria over so it gets more light. i'll also clean everything up.
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I'm not an expert so take my advice with a grain of salt. Too much filtration? There is no such thing ass too much when it comes to filtration. Also, I noticed you have the baby tears all clumped together. If you break it up and spread a few clumps around it will fill in the bottom of the tank. Planting them too close might cause them to kill off. Cool tank and good luck.
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Hi TrueAdrian,

Ferts

Some of the plants should recover now that you have CO2. IMO too much light for too long a period; especially if you are not dosing ferts. I like Seachem Flourish Comprehensive for a good all around balanced fertilizer with macros and micros.

BTW, you can grow plants in a 10 gallon with LED lighting so don't underestimate the impact.

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Thank you guys.

i'll leave the filters alone.

i'll continue to do a weekly 10% WC and add Seachem Flourish.

Leaving the lights alone for the time being. At least till i reprogram the timer

Moved a few plants around and split the clumps of Baby Tears.

i'll keep you guys posted on my progress.
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Worried about the hours of lighting so i reduced it by 2hrs. its now

8hrs t5
2hrs LED

Do lids help with water loss due to evaporation?
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Yes on the evaporation, get a lid to help.
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post #8 of 20 (permalink) Old 12-19-2011, 04:28 PM Thread Starter
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tested the water

PH 7.6
Nitrate 0
Nitrite 0
Ammonia 0

Getting the glass lid fixed. Thank you!
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Update



Wisteria was taking over so i cut it way back same for the Java Moss.

Thinking about pulling the Wisteria out but wont untill I have a suitable replacement.

For comparison- I bought the Wisteria and the Ludwigia Repens on the right at the same time and both where the same size.

Dwarf Baby Tears are looking better as is the Dwarf Hairgrass. will probably buy more of both

Compacta on the left side has some algae on the leaves but appears to be doing well. Can i just scrape the leaves clean?

Please identify this guy

i'm guessing Lotus "Nymphaea Pubescens".
Its really perked up after adding the CO2 and even sprouted new leaves. I absolutely love it and I hope it doesn't out grow this tank.

Thank you all for your help.
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quick question, i now have 3 mystery snails in the tank and was wondering if they are ultimately bad for a planted tank? So far they have really cleaned up the tank and I like watching them.

I was going to get a rams horn and assassin snails but happened about these first. should i switch them out?
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mystery snails where a big mistake. i cut back the feeding to make sure i didnt over feed them and they started to eat the lily... sad. i returned them to the pet store. will probably pick up a couple of ramshorns to help with algae.

still learning
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Nerites won't eat plants and won't breed in freshwater (they will lay eggs though).
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copy that, going to try to dose with Excel to get rid of this algae. cut the lighting back to 8 hours. its not outa control but i want to nip it in the but before it gets any worse.

once things settle down i'll revisit getting more inhabitants
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For what it's worth, I would go for biological controls for your algae first over dosing Excel. Add a couple Amano shrimp and you will see some differences and quickly. Getting the tank to balance somewhat naturally is IMO a better long term plan than dumping chemicals into it. That said nothing against Excel, it can be effective.
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I will chime in on the lighting, Both the T5 fixture and the marineland double bright should be fairly equivalent in PAR, which ultimately is the best measure for plants... IMO, you could do a "burst" of the T5 light for a couple hours during the 8 hour period. This should really start some growth, especially with the CO2 and ferts. It depends on if you like the LEDs or T5's better as to which you use for the full 8 hours, vs. the midday burst from both....
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