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Wink Planted nano?

I have never heard of a Planted Nano tank, until coming here. I am planning on setting up a low tech low light 29 gallon planted tank. Planted nanos intrigue me now. lol

My Questions:

Can Nano's be low tech and low light as well?
How hard is it to start one?
What type of filtration is best?
What about lights?
Plant Recommendations?
Could a 1-2 gallon fish bowl work? To me it can. If not, I several small tanks I can look at and see if they work.
I was thinking pool filter sand just like my future planted tank.

P.S. I don't know what to do! Everything you can do with planted tanks are so intriguing!



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From my experience, a nano low light does not do well, even my mosses are not really growing. you need at least medium light. my 10g is using 5w+8w CFL and mosses are doing poorly. I've then upped the light to 11w+11w CFL, and immediately the mosses are showing growth.


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Yes, nanos can be low-tech and low-light. Just like a big tank.

No more difficult to start one than a large tank. Though, sometimes cycles take a bit longer to get going in my experience. And if you're clumsy like me, it's often more difficult to scape 2-5gal tanks than it is 20+. Neither are really cons, in my opinion, just reasons for me to complain.

Small sponge filters (if you've got enough room in the tank) or a Hang-On-Back will work well. Everything from the standard eBay sponge filters to Red Sea Nano and Aquaclear HOBs.

Desk lamps, standard hoods that fit your tank size, construction-style clamp lamps with CFLs. You've got a lot of options with small tanks. Even speciality clip-on lighting.

Plants: whatever you most enjoy. There are all kinds of plants that work well in nanos. Some you have to trim, some you won't really need to. Anubias nana are popular in low-tech tanks, Java Ferns, most mosses, some Chain Swords, several crypts.

Fish bowls work. There are even specialty filters you can buy for $5-$10.

For substrate in a small tank, I say go with what looks best to you and works best for your needs. Since you'll be using a small amount, it'll be easier and cheaper. Sand is very economical, as you are aware (for your future tank), and looks great in small tanks.


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Okay thanks to both of you.

I have several clamp lamps, they are reptile ones. Going to have to find the clamps. lol

I also have some Energy saving bulbs. I am going to use them.

So I got my Light, light fixture, and tank/cage/bowl.

What is left to get? The sand, filter/pump, plants, and possible a heater.


EDIT: I thought about something similar to this Shrimp Bowl.



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heeey, you found my shrimp bowl.

The missing ingredient from your list is the organic potting soil to use as your bottom layer (you cap it with the sand). The miracle gro brand organic mix is really nice/cheap and produces very good aquatic plant growth.

The heater is not important as long as your house temps do not go much below 69F or above 83F. plants do not care much but cherry shrimp would do best in that temp range.
I highly suggest you start out with keeping plants and cherry shrimp before moving on to other things.




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heeey, you found my shrimp bowl.

The missing ingredient from your list is the organic potting soil to use as your bottom layer (you cap it with the sand). The miracle gro brand organic mix is really nice/cheap and produces very good aquatic plant growth.

The heater is not important as long as your house temps do not go much below 69F or above 83F. plants do not care much but cherry shrimp would do best in that temp range.
I highly suggest you start out with keeping plants and cherry shrimp before moving on to other things.
I have kept several shrimps at one time or another. I currently have Java moss and Java Ferns in another tank, from a tank I took down. I have that exact fish bowl. The light bulb I have is the same wattage, but 6500k.



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6500K is better, i just use 3500K at the moment because that's all i can get for now.
and i meant the plants and cherries in an unfiltered, unheated, low maintenance bowl.




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6500K is better, i just use 3500K at the moment because that's all i can get for now.
and i meant the plants and cherries in an unfiltered, unheated, low maintenance bowl.
Oh! lol. I just got home from college. My mind is a far.

Wait, are you saying I should try this, before my big tank? Or start my big tank before this?



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Oh! lol. I just got home from college. My mind is a far.

Wait, are you saying I should try this, before my big tank? Or start my big tank before this?
Do both. Nanos are a good treatment for Multi Tanks Syndrom (MTS). And I will say +1 on what Newman and somewhatshocked said. They both know their stuff. In regards to filters, you can also find some nano sized internal filters for small tanks. However, keep in mind, the any motor you have running in a tank, whether it be a filter or powerhead or what have you, it is going to add heat. With that said, go for it. And I see nothing wrong with what order you start the tanks in. Big first, Little first, both at the same time, what ever makes you happy and comfortable. Good luck and keep us posted.


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Just because its dirt doesn't make it low tech


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I Ironically, most nano (less than 10 Gallon) are the most expensive route that hobbyists are ended up.


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Do both. Nanos are a good treatment for Multi Tanks Syndrom (MTS). And I will say +1 on what Newman and somewhatshocked said. They both know their stuff. In regards to filters, you can also find some nano sized internal filters for small tanks. However, keep in mind, the any motor you have running in a tank, whether it be a filter or powerhead or what have you, it is going to add heat. With that said, go for it. And I see nothing wrong with what order you start the tanks in. Big first, Little first, both at the same time, what ever makes you happy and comfortable. Good luck and keep us posted.
Thank you! I defiantly will. Probably start a new thread once I get it going.

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It usually is. lol



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the smaller tanks do get expensive, especially if you want top of the line tech on them and have them looking and running flawlessly, but they can still be done in a cheap, casual, and still nice-looking manner.




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the smaller tanks do get expensive, especially if you want top of the line tech on them and have them looking and running flawlessly, but they can still be done in a cheap, casual, and still nice-looking manner.
That is what I am going for. Cheap yet elegant. Some of the best looking tanks on here are cheap and low tech, as well as the expensive ones are.


I may pick some Miracle Gro and plants tomorrow.



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