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Nano EI dosing solutions?

Ola! I am building my nano tank and am looking to dose it EI style. Being that teaspoon measures are too big to dry dose accurately, have any of you figured out a good nano dosing solution, like mini measuring scoops? Mini dosing bottles? Syringe dosers?

Any proven method appreciated.
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I use mini-scoops: nip, dash, pinch, smidgen

Not sure if that's the exact order, but basically you end up with 1/8, 1/16, 1/32, and 1/64 tsp scoops with that set. You can get them at stores like bed bath beyond, or on the forums. I'm kicking myself for not remembering who I purchased them from on here, but they're definitely available.

I originally wanted to mix a stock solution, but find it's much easier to just grab a spoon and dry dose.


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Im seeing them on fleabay. Ill go get them. Thanks!
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just purchase digital scale with 0.01 accuracy.. and your problem solved


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jahmic or anyone else. Would you mind posting the amounts for EI? I know the sticky has them for 20-40 gallons but is there somewhere for 5 gallons?
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This is what I am thinking is correct:

pinch-KNO3-3 times a week
drop-KH2PO4-3 times a week
drop-trace-3 times a week

The sticky post also has gh booster and fe that I think I should skip. If I am doing this right, this should be the 20-40 gallon from the sticky divided by 4, making this for a 5 gallon tank. Am I thinking right here?
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Pretty much what I did...just take the amounts from the sticky and divide by four. I've since tweaked my dosing regimen by lowering the KNO3 dosing due to my fish load, but yes...that would be a good starting point.


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Awesome, thanks. Sorry if I am stealing your thread penguin. Going along with the op, does anyone else have experience with this, or can comment on my calculations?
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jahmic or anyone else. Would you mind posting the amounts for EI? I know the sticky has them for 20-40 gallons but is there somewhere for 5 gallons?
divide the 20-40 version by 1/4 and you have your dosing quantity.


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You can simply add 10X the typical dose amount to say 100mls of water, then dose 10mls of that.

Split it into 2 solutions, one with traces, and some HCL or use RO/DI etc water, and then macros.

Nanos are not hard to do water changes etc, or trim etc, they are harder to keep good CO2 and also to gauge the light correctly.

Those are much larger issues than adding as tad too much or too little to the tank. Using ADA As is also fairly cheap for small tanks.




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I just use water from my big EI tank and do the wc's on the same day...
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Ok, I figured it out. Gonna use the mini measuring spoons I got from here to approximate minute amounts. Then, I'll be getting some mini pump sprayers from Sally's Beauty Supply and measuring how much each pump puts out vs. a measured mixing cup. A little math, some more math and maybe a little testing, then I'll have some table top spray bottles that will dose my mini's with a pump or two each. Drive by dosing

Will be getting the stuff today. Thanks again!
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Let us know how it goes. I'm considering the same thing. Still deciding between that and just dry dosing.
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Let us know how it goes. I'm considering the same thing. Still deciding between that and just dry dosing.
Will surely give an update.

In my mind, the difference with dry dosing and making prepped mixes with a defined dosing solution is the convenience and time element. I would like to be able to fertilize as I walk out the door.
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I agree with you there. My issue is that I would not want to have to use a syringe. If I could find a bottle that dispenses the correct amount with each pump then it probably would be worth my time.
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