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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 10-05-2017, 08:49 PM Thread Starter
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Nitrogen Cycle(Update)

My tank has been running for a little over one week. I'm kinda confused about the results can someone who knows help me out.

Test Results:
Ph: 7
Amonia: .25ppm
Nitrite: 0 ppm
Nitrate: 0 ppm

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5 Gallons
Established for 1 week
Substrate: Fluval Spectrum Substrate
Plants: Staurogyne repens
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You're hardly started. Do you have fish in the tank yet?

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You're hardly started. Do you have fish in the tank yet?

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No, not for awhile. Trying to do everything right since this is a nano tank, first time I've ever tested anything other than Ph. Is it normal to see slight amounts of ammonia but 0 nitrates and nitrites.
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In order to actually cycle the tank you need Ammonia. You'll actually need 1-2ppm Ammonia to get it going. Did you use any type of bacteria starter, if so which one and how long ago did you add it? If not you can easily do it without but you'll need an Ammonia source and understand it may (usually) takes longer. You will need an Ammonia source regardless to keep the process going to completion and maintained until you add fish.

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In order to actually cycle the tank you need Ammonia. You'll actually need 1-2ppm Ammonia to get it going. Did you use any type of bacteria starter, if so which one and how long ago did you add it? If not you can easily do it without but you'll need an Ammonia source and understand it may (usually) takes longer. You will need an Ammonia source regardless to keep the process going to completion and maintained until you add fish.

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Other than the Plants, soil, some rocks and Prime water conditioner I haven't added anything to the tank.
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Maybe you have Ammonia at the tap, probably worth testing to see since you have Ammonia readings in the tank and no source. It'll be handy to have that info when you add fish.

For now if you're doing a fishless cycle and adding fish afterwards, my personal recommendation is seachem stability and any Ammonia that is dye, perfume, and suffectant free. Basically look at bottles of Ammonia and if it says any ingredients other than Ammonia it won't work. Dr Fosters and Smith has one and most Ace hardware stores have it. I've always had luck at any hardware store finding it to be honest. I do believe Dr Fosters and Smith is much smaller though so you don't have it hanging around the house. There's Ammonia dosing charts online (Google & pick one lol), dose up the tank (don't add prime within 48 hours before or after) and add Stability. Stability should be dosed daily. I have run a fishless cycle complete with Ammonia and Stability in a week with 2 days of confirmation testing.

Depending on what stock you are planning to put in, you can also do a fish in product such as Tetra Safe Start + or API Quick Start. Those are ones where you add the fish and 12 or so hours later add the product and do nothing for a 7-14 days. No water changes, test results will be crazy if you try so there's no point. I don't like them because I can't test or water change.

When you are fully cycled:
Stability and Ammonia method - you'll dose Ammonia and it will be fully converted to nitrAtes in 24 hours or less. Ammonia 0 - nitrIte 0 - nitrAte of some reading over 0 generally over 5, planted tank you'll likely want over 10 unless dosing nitrogen.
Fish in cycle with product - you will test after your waiting period and hopefully have Ammonia 0, nitrIte 0 and some nitrAte reading over 0. If not do a huge water change and dose again and wait. Fish in can be very hard on any fish, sensitive types do very poorly and shrimp won't survive it.

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A tank needs a constant ammonia source to get the cycle going and then keep it going. Either from fish waste or added ammonia/rotting food. I feel like there are pet stores (or people online) that tell people cycling a tank is having it empty of fish for a month and they are not doing new hobbyists any favors.


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A tank needs a constant ammonia source to get the cycle going and then keep it going. Either from fish waste or added ammonia/rotting food. I feel like there are pet stores (or people online) that tell people cycling a tank is having it empty of fish for a month and they are not doing new hobbyists any favors.
This is extremely true. Restarting after a huge move recently I had a small fish store tell me that they would not sell me fish because I refused to buy bacteria starter and had cycled with Ammonia... I've been in the hobby over 25 years. I just said to the guy "one less stop when I come to town then" and walked away. I refuse to debate methods at a store (or online for that matter), but I will explain the process to anyone who wants help getting started off in the right direction.

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