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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 09-04-2017, 09:01 PM Thread Starter
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45u + 3n = fun

Hello all, its been a while.

This is going to be a journal for my first try hard tank. Not that I haven't tried hard for my hobby before but I finally have the budget to afford some of the really nice things for once, also now that I am no longer in school I have the time to properly care for my tanks. Hopefully this will serve to satisfy my MTS until I can save enough for my extremely expensive dream nano reef. Equipment and such should be arriving this week and some things from china will probably take a couple weeks longer but I am bored today so I figured I could get this started.

Equipment:
45U - 17.71x11.02x11.02 in - 9.3gal rimless + leveling mat (buceplant.com)
Been dying to do a rimless system
Eheim 2213 canister
Knock off glass lilypipes: inflow, outflow, and inline co2 diffuser
Chihiros A series - 40cm + hanging kit + remote
Archaea co2 paintball regulator + 24oz paintball tank

Hardscape:
ADA amazonia - 9L (aquaforestaquarium.com)
ADA colorado sand - 8kg (aquaforestaquarium.com)
Dragon stone - 20lbs (manzanita-driftwood.com)
I wont be using it all but it'll give me a nice selection, cheaper price, and who doesn't love extra hardscape on hand?
Spider wood
Gonna try and break it up into lots of smaller branches for accents and to emulate roots

Plants:
Hygrophila araguaia
Hydrocotyle japan
2 mystery buce from another tank
AFA
UG tissue culture
rotala H'ra tissue culture
Hygrophila pinnatifida tissue culture
Han Aquatics
Fissidens Fontanus
Always wanted this
Mini christmas moss
Rotala mini butterfly
Lilaeopsis chinensis
Super mini brownie buce

I will also be trying out ThriveS for fertilizer.

Ill be posting as I make progress and as stuff arrives, I also have access to a legit camera so hopefully I can get some nice pictures up.
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Is an iPhone camera not legit enough???? Lol, glad to see another tank build, I am loving your plant list.


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This reminds me of me before... Hahaha.. Nice lists of plants.. =)

I agree to Skye, is iPhone camera not enough.. =P
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Haha, it does the job I suppose but I have always had issues getting the resolution to turn out when transferring to a computer.

Lily pipes, dragon stone, and wave scissors are here. Overall very pleased, the pipes were packaged very well and seem sturdy. The stone came in a nice variety of sizes and shapes and I had more than enough to keep 3 nice large ones and break up the rest into smaller pieces. Pictures to come! I want to give credit where credit is due for the items I've purchased.

Unfortunately I work this weekend and the tank and substrate aren't scheduled to arrive till Friday and Saturday so I won't be able to truly get started until Monday.
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Questions about your lighting:

- Did you get your Chihiros from Amazon, Ebay, or Hinterfeld? And how long did it take to ship?

- How do you like it so far?


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Questions about your lighting:

- Did you get your Chihiros from Amazon, Ebay, or Hinterfeld? And how long did it take to ship?

- How do you like it so far?
I ordered it from amazon the seller was JinYu aquarium, it is still in transit so I cannot say for sure how long it will take but the estimate is sep 25 - oct 17 and I ordered on sep 4.

Ill definitely make a post about the light and how it turns out, I wanted to try something new so I am curious as well!

Bump: Update time!

I've spent the last 5 hours or so scaping. I thought I was taking more pictures than I was but they should give a good idea of the process.

I ended up not using the mini xmas moss or the rotala h'ra I didn't want to completely cover the wood and stone with moss and I ended up having less space in the back than I anticipated.

Overall I am pleased with how it turned out.. now for the tricky part, getting the plants to fill in just right.

Not sure why some of the pictures are sideways.. I will fix that for next time!
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First predicament.. This morning I opened the plastic wrap and everything was looking nice and perky but I found some white fuzzies on a few stems of the rotala

Is this something I should be worried about? Should I remove the affected stems? Is there too much moisture in the tank even if it was only one day?

Never had this happen when converting a plant from submersed to emersed growth before..
Thanks in advance!
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... Is there too much moisture in the tank even if it was only one day?
Yes, that can happen when its too wet.

Setup looks good, I hate that the pics are sideways. Are you using a cell phone camera. That's when it tends to happen.
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Yes, that can happen when its too wet.

Setup looks good, I hate that the pics are sideways. Are you using a cell phone camera. That's when it tends to happen.
Good to know, I'm planning to let things air out more frequently hopefully that will help.

Me too, yes I was while scaping. I plan on getting better pictures when you can actually see something other than water on the glass.. maybe when I air it out later.
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Some better pictures, I think I managed to get them all right side up this time!

The back left corner has the rotala mini butterfly and the hygrophila pinnatifida around the edge and is the highest "tier" of substrate. The next "tier" has the hygrophila araguaia in the back (right corner) and then some hydrocotyle japan, lilaeopsis chinensis, and UG mixed in towards the front. The left "ledge" lets call it has more UG and some japan and chinensis mixed in again as well. The fissidens fontanus is attached to two of the larger pieces of spider wood and towards the base of the centerpiece stone. The small buce seen attached to the stone and wood are the mini brownie which came in extremely nice and healthy I might add. The last two mystery buce are much larger, if memory serves the larger one on the wood is some type of red morph but only time will tell.

The more I think about it I am wondering if I should pull the rotala and grow it submersed until I flood the tank.. I'm not sure how transitioning from submersed to emersed and back again will be great on the plant. What do you guys think?
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Nothing much to report, the dry start is still going the mold issue seems to be under control now. Still waiting on the light so flooding the tank probably won't happen until then.

I would like to note that the lilaeopsis chinensis started showing new growth after only 1 day I wonder what will happen with it once its submerged with co2, ferts, and better lighting.. The UG has also perked up and I believe it is putting out new growth but much slower, unfortunately I didn't plant any close to the glass so I can't tell how the roots are doing.

The only thing I am slightly worried about is the fissidens, I expected some die off but its mostly just looking crappy. Any tips? Worst case scenario there will be some that will bounce back once flooded.


3N:
So since I just can't help myself AND I had enough leftover plants and substrate I decided to order a 3N ultum nature systems tank (12.2" x 7.48" x 7.48" - 2.9g)... oops . It will be set that up as a low tech tank for my pea puffer (frank sinaqua) on the other side of my desk. I am gonna try growing a lilaeopsis chinensis carpet with a chihiros, excel, thriveS, and aquasoil.. it'll be interesting to compare the growth since there's not much info on the plant. I am just going to add snippets of that tank on this thread starting later this week.

Plants:
chinensis
x-mas moss
buce (4-6 varieties)

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The light arrived yesterday! Shipping was faster than predicted which was nice, from the time I ordered it has been 15 days so not terrible!

The packaging was good, the box was only slightly dented but there was enough bubble wrap everything was okay. So far I am very satisfied for the price. Only complaint is that 3 of the 4 mounting screws were hard to get in but they still get the job done. Also I should mention, the remote and the dimmer aren't able to be installed together and the remote doesn't have strong signal so it has trouble working when the cords are behind the cabinet. Just be mindful of that if you purchase.. it could be helpful if your switch ends up behind things and not easily in reach but otherwise I would just stick with the regular switch. The default setting without any switch is the highest setting which is what the light is currently at on my tank. I am not sure if it will be too powerful at the moment.

Pardon the egg crate, temporary until I build the hanger. I will be flooding the tank shortly after I get the co2 tank filled
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Any updates on these nice tanks? I am also curious how your lights working?


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