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Sick guppy?

As I was looking at my tank yesterday, I noticed one of my guppies had a flesh-looking protrusion coming out of her anal area. I thought she might be about to give birth, so I kept an eye on her. After about an hour, one of my Black Phantom Tetras raced up to her and started chasing after her.....picking at that spot. He was successful in getting a mouthful and pulled out what looked to be 4-6 inches of a very white, tube looking substance. All of the fish immediately went crazy and the Black Phantom sucked down whatever it was that came out of the guppy. I did get a pic of the initial protrusion, but was unable to get one of the stuff that he pulled out of the guppy. She lasted about an hour or so afterwards and then died. Any idea what happened?
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keep an eye out for internal parasites.


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More likely than not, your black phantom has the parasite now. I would medicate all the fish to be on the safe side.
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More likely than not, your black phantom has the parasite now. I would medicate all the fish to be on the safe side.
What should I be looking for? What type of symptoms or parasites? & what medication should be used?
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I've never had to medicate for internal parasites, so I'm not sure what meds to use, but white or clear stringy poop is a symptom.

I'm fairly experienced with fish, but new to planted tanks.
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Not eating, sunken stomach, white stringy poop, worm protrusion from the anus.

The meds depends on the parasite. Some are worms, some are protozoans.


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Common de-wormers/anti-parasitic meds are Metronidazole (API General Cure, Seachem MetroPlex/Aquazole) and Praziquantel (Hikari PraziPro, some amount in API General Cure).

I think Praziquantel pretty much only does internal parasites and flukes. I believe Metronidazole does a little more, treating internal parasites, protozoa and also hexamita and some other bacteria. So I would recommend Metronidazole in this case. Both are plant safe and pretty well tolerated by fish. I think they might be safe with inverts, but not sure.

Medicated foods are more effective and faster acting, IF the fish actually eat the medicated foods.
Kensfish sells flakes and sticks medicated with Metronidazole, but you can make your own by soaking food in a mixture of Metro, Seachem Focus (binder), Seachem GarlicGuard (entices/attracts fish to eat the food -masks med taste/smell), and the food in a tiny amount of water (just enough to cover food and absorb without excess water).

Again that is if the fish are eating it. Medicating the water column is not as effective, but still works.

The fleshy sac hanging out I think was the anal glands and some intestine protruding out the anal vent. So yes, sounds like she had the parasite for quite some time and it looks painful. The stringy stuff the other fish pulled out of her might of been her fecal matter or her actual intestines. Sounds and looks to have been extremely painful.
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Common de-wormers/anti-parasitic meds are Metronidazole (API General Cure, Seachem MetroPlex/Aquazole) and Praziquantel (Hikari PraziPro, some amount in API General Cure).

I think Praziquantel pretty much only does internal parasites and flukes. I believe Metronidazole does a little more, treating internal parasites, protozoa and also hexamita and some other bacteria. So I would recommend Metronidazole in this case. Both are plant safe and pretty well tolerated by fish. I think they might be safe with inverts, but not sure.

Medicated foods are more effective and faster acting, IF the fish actually eat the medicated foods.
Kensfish sells flakes and sticks medicated with Metronidazole, but you can make your own by soaking food in a mixture of Metro, Seachem Focus (binder), Seachem GarlicGuard (entices/attracts fish to eat the food -masks med taste/smell), and the food in a tiny amount of water (just enough to cover food and absorb without excess water).

Again that is if the fish are eating it. Medicating the water column is not as effective, but still works.

The fleshy sac hanging out I think was the anal glands and some intestine protruding out the anal vent. So yes, sounds like she had the parasite for quite some time and it looks painful. The stringy stuff the other fish pulled out of her might of been her fecal matter or her actual intestines. Sounds and looks to have been extremely painful.
Yes, she looked like she was in great distress. I will get the meds and treat accordingly to try and block this off.
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