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post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old 11-23-2008, 07:31 AM Thread Starter
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made a stupid mistake

so yea today i went to a lfs and bought 2 rummies to add into my existing school, 4 oto's, and 3 juili cories. Went home and drip acclimated them. That was when i made the mistake i only acclimated them for 40 mintues. Once when i put them in i already noticed that the 2 rummies were breathing really heavly and were kinda struglling to swim. I also noticed that one of the cories were missing its barbels. I ended up losing the 2 rummies but everyone else seems very healthy even the cory without its barbels. So yea im kinda mad right now for being so unpatient.
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Rummies can be very tempermental. 40 mins is a good amount of time for drip acl. Not sure if much more would have helped.

If the otos made it, then your water is fine.


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Rummies are fussy.

I actually acclimate my fish over a period of 3 hours. Every 15-30 minutes I dump a dixi cup of water from the tank into the bag.

I've done this with 14 rummy nose tetras, 8 green flame tetras, 2 pearl gouramis, 5 Corydoras habrosus, 5 ottos, 5 glowlight danios, 2 maccaluchii rainbows, and 2 blue rams, and the only fish I've ever lost was a female pearl gourami, but she died 3 days after she was put in the tank, so I don't count that...lol

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Cool! The Cup acclimation method! Hey if it's worked......

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I just lose track of time and I wouldn't want to over drip the fish and flood my room...haha

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yea or maybe i just bought a bad batch of rummy nose. All the rummies on their tank did not have any red on their heads at all. o yea does anybody think that cory will grow back back its barbels? He acts more like a regular fish now than a cory.
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Could be a bad batch. I actually acclimate my rummies for only about 20 minutes or so. Adding a cup of water every 5-7 minutes. I do that for about 3-4 times and pop, in they go.

All my rummies survive Total of 8.

Always pick the rummies with the best red. No red = bad sign.

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yea i got my 5 rummies 2 months ago and never lost a single one at the same lfs, but this time its a complete different story
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I just lose track of time and I wouldn't want to over drip the fish and flood my room...haha
I put my fish in a bucket in another bucket. That way, if I forget, the second bucket catches any overflow. It takes so many hours to fill the first bucket, I generally don't have a problem.

Or you could set a timer.

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I always use two buckets, because I know I'll forget and it will over flow. One bucket that will hold enough for maybe like an hour of drip, and then a bigger one to catch the overflow.

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I believe the whole acclimation thing is highly over-rated, and odds are there was something wrong with them in the first place.

My #1 objective when I get a fish (especially a shipped fish) - is to get them out of a bag of ammonia. My logic is multi-faceted...

1) Gee, let me slowly get you out of that poisonous water - as slow as possible so I don't "shock" you. (even in a bag a short time, you would be surprised how quickly ammonia can gather - fish excrete ammonia through breathing as well as through their digestive track).

2) Gee, you seem all stressed in that little bitty bag - stay there a while longer and look at all of this freedom you will soon have and all the places you can escape to when you finally get free so you can calm down (As an avid trout fisheman, one thing that kills the most fish in catch-and-release is the huge build-up of stress-related lactic acid the fish builds up in his blood, so the idea is to catch them faster, and let them go sooner - this is also a reason a lot of exporters will "tranqilize" the fish to reduce their stress of being bagged up in their own poisons)

3) Lastly, as an avid fisherman - anyone who's been in Rivers and lakes knows that the temperature and pH in both rivers and lakes vary greatly even within several feet of various places. I've never asked a fish if it "tests" the water differences by sticking in a "fin" into the flow above it to test the pH or temperature - before it decides to move to the next spot...

Now, all of this, of course (especially temp) is within reason - but there's documented literature (by Axelrod, IIRC) of where the Rio Negro flows into the larger tribs of the amazon where both the temp and pH are significantly different and Discus and Tetras freely flow between the two without "testing ala fin".

As I said, my #1 goal is to get the fish out of a small posionous prision (where his stress compounds the poisoning).

That's my story, and I'm sticking too it.
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I'm a big proponent of drip acclimation, but in your case it sounds to me like you got some bad stock.

I'm SUPER picky about my tetras; I won't buy if there's a single fish in the store that is looking sickly- IME (and tetras have remained my favorite fish for more than 20 years) if there's anything in a store to be caught, tetras will manage to get it and you'll have massive losses within the first month.

BUT- If you can get healthy stock, get them acclimated to your tank, and get them past the first month- they're pretty hardy fish.





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Maybe we have wildly different Rummies (and fish in general, though we do get the same breeds) here in Australia, but the concept of drip-acclimation is wonderfully bizarre to me, and to everyone else I've spoken to about it.

Maybe I've just been lucky, but all I've ever done is added another half-measure (measure being whatever is already in the bag from the lfs) of water from my tank, float the bag in the tank, clamp the tank lid down on the bag edge so the fish don't escape, and let them sit for ten minutes.

I've never had a death from this method, and I've kept fish for quite some time. Is there such a huge difference in water "type" over in the USA? (I'm assuming USA in this case)

I don't mean to sound arrogant, quite the opposite. I'm curious. Everyone I know in the fish "industry" here uses the same method that I do.

If someone could illuminate the subject, I'd appreciate it!
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There can be pretty dramatic differences in the US. Between well water, different municipal treatment plants and programs, coastal versus inland, etc etc our water parameters can really fluctuate a lot.

My own water (I'm on a well) runs pH 7.4ish and kH and gH are off the charts (I stopped counting at 30+ degrees last time I tested) though during the rainy season that often drops some. People on city water here typically have a neutral pH and only moderate hardness.

I always drip acclimate, better safe than sorry.





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huh well i use the same method as you do maxall never lost a single fish due to water shock
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