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Please help, German Rams very agressive

Hey folks, I'm in a bit of a tricky situation here.
I have a 150l tank, and recently purchase 2 German Rams to occupy it. It appears the fish shop has given me 2 males (one clearly more dominant than the other). Because of the agressive behaviour from the dominant male, the smaller one has lost a lot of his colour.
I tried separating them, and as soon as the smaller one's colour came right back.
It's been a week now, and no improvement, however I fear the dominant fish has now set up a territory, as he is now starting to flare at the Tetras and Corys.
If he's this agressive, would I be able to add a female? I'm worried he'll just bully her before she can get properly acclimated.
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Third is them both together
Last is the tank
Any help would be really grateful. If rather give fish away than have one die...
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You probably have 2 males. And, having 2 Ram males- they are doing what 2 male cichlids would do naturally. The male cichlid- whether a Ram, a discus, or an Angel fish, will always chase and "dominate" the subordinate fish. Its their way.

German Rams ( as far as South American Dwarf Cichlids are concerned) are pretty aggressive. In fact, my German Gold ram cichlid, soon after spawning, killed the female. They can be very mean/aggressive.

It appears you have a 40 gallon tank.
I would recommend either getting another 4 of them to spread the aggression through the group or exchange one of the males for a female. Or, even, 2-3 females. This should bring more peace to the aquarium. I would also get some very small terra cotta pots or (other type of shelter) for fish to retreat to to get out of the line of sight of others. Adding flat rocks is also helpful because it gives a pair a place to spawn and lets others know not to trespass in this area.


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You probably have 2 males. And, having 2 Ram males- they are doing what 2 male cichlids would do naturally. The male cichlid- whether a Ram, a discus, or an Angel fish, will always chase and "dominate" the subordinate fish. Its their way.

German Rams ( as far as South American Dwarf Cichlids are concerned) are pretty aggressive. In fact, my German Gold ram cichlid, soon after spawning, killed the female. They can be very mean/aggressive.

It appears you have a 40 gallon tank.
I would recommend either getting another 4 of them to spread the aggression through the group or exchange one of the males for a female. Or, even, 2-3 females. This should bring more peace to the aquarium. I would also get some very small terra cotta pots or (other type of shelter) for fish to retreat to to get out of the line of sight of others. Adding flat rocks is also helpful because it gives a pair a place to spawn and lets others know not to trespass in this area.
Hi Discusluv,
Thanks for your response. I've done some research and suspected this might be an option.
Do you think it would be worth restricting the large ones movement around the tank while the females are added and acclimate? Maybe for 24 hours?
I'd try using a mesh box so the Dominant male is still in the tank but cant get to the females to harm them?

There are a couple of caves and hiding holes, but I'll definitely take your advice and add more.
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If you can safely keep the male apart while the females acclimate- sure. Just make sure that neither can get hurt by any object that use to keep them apart.
You will also need to just let some aggression happen for awhile when all do meet. Normally, they will settle within a couple hours. I would try feeding when put them together. This helps serve as a distraction.


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Awesome, That's really really helpful. Thank you
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Awesome, That's really really helpful. Thank you
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