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Guppy burned mouth

I got 4 male guppys and had them in quarantine for a week. They ate everything I gave them, colored up nicely and are very active. I put them in my 5 gallon tank last night which already had 2 amano shrimp and 3 nerite snails. They had a couple hours to explore the tank and eat some algae before the lights went out.


This morning one male has protruding, very white lips. He can't seem to open and close his mouth very well. I think he may have been pecking at the heater, trying to get to the light inside. He seems to be able to breathe. I did a water change and added some melafix in hopes of helping him feel better.



I am glad I did the quarantine, made sure he got food into him before this happened. I am hoping his mouth heals up so he can eat.

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I don't have the vast experience or knowledge of many here. But if it were me I'd put that fish back into quarantine and heal/monitorl him there.
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I don't have the vast experience or knowledge of many here. But if it were me I'd put that fish back into quarantine and heal/monitorl him there.
Second this. Doubt if they are burnt lips.

Melafix works as very mild antiseptic and has little application for most things. If you have a product with methelyne blue that would be far more effective.

this may simply be bacteria and mild fungus, but it may also be cotton-mouth which is far more serious.

Try the milder treatments for 24 hours and re-access.

Im ssuming the quarantine tank was cycled or you did frequent water changes so fish were not exposed to ammonia or nitrite?
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The quarantine tank is a bare 1 gallon bowl and I did a 50% water change daily. I took today to bleach it so I can have a clean space for the guppy to stay.

It doesn't look like a fungus. The white lips "damage" looks pretty uniform around the mouth. Which is why I thought it might be from touching the heater. It amazes me that it got so bad overnight.

I will have to go to the store and buy new medicine. I don't have methelyne blue and the other medicines I have are well past expiration date.

Would a salt bath help? I have both jungle aquarium salt and API aquarium salt.

He has been exhibiting lethargic behavior today. Hanging out at the top, moving very slowly, his mouth always at the surface. Complete 180 from the wiggly fish I put in yesterday.

The 3 other fish are not showing any symptoms.

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I would leave the fish be until tomorrow- it has already had a dose of m
Melafix for a mild antibacterial and salt will just be redundant at this point.
It will probably not make it until morning from the way it sounds. Lethargy is not good.
Still, put fish in quarantine and watch your other fish for similar symptoms.


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I gave all four fish individual salt baths, since all the fish have been together since the store. One of the healthy fish seems to be flashing. The current temp of the tank is 71, so I am slowly raising it to treat for ich. I do not have a secondary hospital tank.

The poor sick fish can't seem to close his mouth at all. He will hang vertically for awhile and suddenly swim around the bowl. Maybe I should end his suffering? I have a bottle of clove oil.

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The sick guppy died around 10:30pm. I have never seen a fish get sick and die so quickly.

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Sorry to hear that. I'm treating a sick angel right now myself. Most on here can probably relate its stressful and often sad when a fish passes.

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Thank you to everyone who has been giving advice. I appreciate it.

I've had 5 or 6 bettas that were relatively healthy except for constipation issues and a group of glowlight tetras that I had no issues with. So this is really the first time I have dealt with a dangerous illness.

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