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Hi @Scapegoat79,

Time to 'bite the bullet' and play doctor. Net gently, place on wet towel, have Methylene Blue already set up with Q-tip for dabbing. Might be a two person job, one to hold the fish steady. Remember to use wet hands to avoid scale damage.

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I would be using antibiotic at this point. Kanamycin, active ingredient in Seachem kanaplex would be a good choice.


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I would be using antibiotic at this point. Kanamycin, active ingredient in Seachem kanaplex would be a good choice.
Even though the fish is still eating and showing no signs of weakness?

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Time to 'bite the bullet' and play doctor. Net gently, place on wet towel, have Methylene Blue already set up with Q-tip for dabbing. Might be a two person job, one to hold the fish steady. Remember to use wet hands to avoid scale damage.
I'm curious how dabbing the wound directly differs much from treating the water column twice? Seems to me that Methylene Blue isn't having any effect whatsoever...

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I'm curious how dabbing the wound directly differs much from treating the water column twice? Seems to me that Methylene Blue isn't having any effect whatsoever...

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It's going to be a much higher concentration at the wound. The water column is greatly diluting it.
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Even though the fish is still eating and showing no signs of weakness?

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In this case, yes.

This area has been opened and exposed for a long time, you have done preliminary measures of clean water and methelyne blue to no effect. I would recommend antibiotics.



I would agree with antibiotics directly in wound if you had the dosage amount to safely do so.

With water column dosing you are given the rate of dosage -- making it a safer option.

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Its about concentration. In water column, dosing methelyene blue is offset by organics in the water-- just like antibiotics are. A direct application eliminates this occurrence. As opposed to antibiotics, however, methelyene blue is safe to use without knowing an exact dosage rate. It is an antiseptic ( antibacterial), not an antibiotic.
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Hi Scapegoat79,

As was stated above, it has to do with concentration. In water it is very, very diluted. When applied directly it is concentrated and substantially more effective.
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Alright, I'll give the Kanaplex a shot. I don't have any qtips currently. Thanks.

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I ended up finding some qtips and dabbing the wound with Methylene Blue. Then I treated his tank 3x over the course of this last week with Kanaplex (as well as running 2 tsp/10 gal of Salt).

I can't tell that it's getting much better, any thoughts?

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Yes, it does look better.
If you look at the second picture you can see the depression has filled in some with healthy tissue.

In the first photo, you have a second depression ( to muscle) inside the larger one ( which is the top layer of scales).

Antibiotics continue to work several days after administered. Healing continues as well.
Continue to do meth blue swabs and salt to inhibit further bacterial growth for 3 more days.


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You're right, after comparing the 1st pic to this one it does show improvement.

Will follow that advice and see what happens. Thank you.

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