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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 10-28-2019, 03:16 PM Thread Starter
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In the past 2 months I have lost about 7 fish one after another and they go through the same thing they lay on the ground and breathe heavy and their eyes pop and die but the past 2 fish I’ve notice holes and white dots on there heads and I have been treating them for ick but nothings working. I have a 65 gallon tank. What could be happening to my fish and what is best thing to treat them with
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In the past 2 months I have lost about 7 fish one after another and they go through the same thing they lay on the ground and breathe heavy and their eyes pop and die but the past 2 fish I’ve notice holes and white dots on there heads and I have been treating them for ick but nothings working. I have a 65 gallon tank. What could be happening to my fish and what is best thing to treat them with

Not sure but ya need more info. Tank parameters, do you have test kits? Check ammonia, nitrites, nitrates at minimum. PH GH KH if possible.



Any pictures? They speak way more then words in identifying issues.



Any history on introducing no fish or other items to the tank.? Identifying issues is kind of detective work since there is so much that can go wrong. As such some clues are beneficial.


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What kind of fish are they???
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Her tank has been up and running for quite some time now.

She does bi-weekly water changes (sometimes she lacks), and she's currently without access to test kits.
When visually inspecting the fish, their fins are completely extended and looking healthy so we assume it might not be a water quality issue.

Next is fish.
All but a few of her fish had been living in this setup for the entire duration. Many grew to their adult size in the tank, living a healthy life.
She had 3 adult kissing fish, 2 small plecos, adult red tail, adult barb, gouramis, and i think thats about it.

We introduced 3 healthy copper tetras to the tank, and that was most likely the start of the issue. A few days after introduction, we lost one of the tetras, and a few days later, a second leaving a very healthy and active third lone tetra. Everything else seemed fine, so we chalked it up as a loss on some newer fish. It happens.

Few weeks pass and she didnt experience any more issues. She introduced a bolivian ram to the tank, a fish she's been eyeing for some time now. Very shy and timid, never really came out from his area to be seen.

It was a short period after of which she noticed one of her plecos had started to form a white slime coating. 2 days later and the pleco had passed away.
Shortly after, she started losing her adult kissing fish, her copper tetra, and then her newly added ram.

It seems as though she gained some kind of parasite or sickness from some of her newly introduced fish. We're hoping you guys could give her some kind of clue or lead on what to do here. There's so many different types of meds for tanks, that we're not wanting to experiment without some kind of direction to follow.


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First things first-- a water testing kit to test water quality. This is the first place you go when fish get sick. Test for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate. Tank could be going through a mini-cycle or recently went through one for an unknown reason.

Next, water changes. When fish start dying of what looks like bacterial symptoms ( which is evident in secondary fungus) need to do more water changes to lower bacterial load in aquarium.

Can we get a photo of tank and photo/video of fish that are sick?
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We need pics to be certain.

What temperature?
What filter?
What water conditioners/meds/ferts are you dosing?
What lighting?
What plants?
What food?
Where is the tank located? Near a tv or radio? Near a window? Near a washing machine, dryer, or other objects that vibrate?

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ID:	888819The temperature is about 74 degrees. The tank is infront of a window. I feed them tetra min tropical flakes and some times freeze dried brine shrimp. I will get my levels checked tomorrow. I have yellow low lighting. When I do water changes I put in the new water stress coat plus. I had real plants but the fish ate them and didn’t grow in the low lighting My pleco is losing color. The pleco and the ram in the picture have already passed but with the rams picture it was taken a couple days before he passed it got worse and developed holes in his head.
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Have you seen any white feces being eliminated from fish?
Are there pits around the head area or are they on other areas of body of fish as well?
The pictures are very blurry so its hard to determine if that is what Im seeing.
White feces and pitting could be Hexamita.

But, the white fungus on body and the look of the pleco points in a different direction- to columnaris.
Both could be present at the same time. That is possible.

Were water changes done today?
After testing done tomorrow please advise on numbers.
Answer above questions and I can recommend treatment.


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I have not seen any white feces and there are pits on their heads. I just did a water change about 25%. The water test came back clean the levels are good. The guy at the fish store did not give me any numbers just said that the water was good. The owner at the store said aquarium salt should help but would reef crystals for saltwater do the same thing as aquarium salt?
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I did the water change after I got the water tested
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I have not seen any white feces and there are pits on their heads. I just did a water change about 25%. The water test came back clean the levels are good. The guy at the fish store did not give me any numbers just said that the water was good. The owner at the store said aquarium salt should help but would reef crystals for saltwater do the same thing as aquarium salt?
I cant help. Sorry. Not enough information.

Maybe someone else can.


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The white coat on the pleco looks similar to what happened in my tank recently. It was cleared up by dosing Seachem metroplex in their food. It was some sort of internal parasite that was causing my bristlenose to stress and the white was an interruption in his slime coat, not fungus as I had initially thought. Have you noticed any fish in the tank flashing? That is, shimmying or turning on their side then quickly flipping back? That was the first sign of this disease in my tank, then I noticed the plecos skin turning white.
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Reef crystals are not the same as aquarium salt intended for freshwater, as far as I know.
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The weaker or more sicker looking fish have been turning on there sides
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If it is Hexamita, aka "Hole in the head", you can try feeding medicated food and medicating the tank.
You could use this food for a pre-made option-
https://kensfish.com/collections/med...e-garlic-flake

There's several metronidazole options for water dosing, but I use SeaChem MetroPlex.

This is somewhere to start. It's difficult to make any kind of diagnosis from the information we have here. Step up water changes, dose a little bit of the Stress Coat daily until things get better, and good luck.

Some reading on Hexamita -
https://petcentral.chewy.com/hexamit...-head-disease/
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