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Apistos, Rams or Kribs for 40 Breeder?

I can't make up my mind on what dwarf cichlid I want to stock in my 40 breeder. I've been looking at Apistogramma Cacatuoides, Bolivian Rams or Kribensis/Albino Kribensis (Pelvachromis Pulcher). My PH is 7.4, GH is 4.5, and KH is 2.2.

I was originally going to stock it as a community setup but I do want to make cichlids as the focus. What in your opinion would be the most interesting cichlid for a living room display tank?

(Also want to note I keep going back to really liking the Kribs but I have no idea what tankmates since they can be aggressive when breeding; which is the only thing putting me off from them)
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Pretty much all cichlids are aggressive when breeding. I would go with the apistos, but I like them better
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I have kept blue/gold and Bolivian rams, now I am switching over to apisto cacatuoides. I like the apisto better, but kribs are also beautiful. As stated above, cichlids, even the peaceful ones, won't be the nicest things during breeding and nesting, so I'd say pick whichever one you think looks the best. For me it would be between apistos and kribs.
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Iíd go with the Apistos, but currently all (6 ~150g total) of my tanks have combos of different wild type Apistos and pencilfish. Iíve kept blue rams, & kribs too, not sure Iíll be back any time soon.

Having said that, go with what you like best, or is the best looking. My blackwater ada 90p has an Apisto species that nobody keeps & most people wonít because itís just brown most of the time. When the males are sparring for a female they are a rainbow of color. I love it, most people donít & I could care less.


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Pretty much all cichlids are aggressive when breeding. I would go with the apistos, but I like them better
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I have kept blue/gold and Bolivian rams, now I am switching over to apisto cacatuoides. I like the apisto better, but kribs are also beautiful. As stated above, cichlids, even the peaceful ones, won't be the nicest things during breeding and nesting, so I'd say pick whichever one you think looks the best. For me it would be between apistos and kribs.
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Iíd go with the Apistos, but currently all (6 ~150g total) of my tanks have combos of different wild type Apistos and pencilfish. Iíve kept blue rams, & kribs too, not sure Iíll be back any time soon.

Having said that, go with what you like best, or is the best looking. My blackwater ada 90p has an Apisto species that nobody keeps & most people wonít because itís just brown most of the time. When the males are sparring for a female they are a rainbow of color. I love it, most people donít & I could care less.
I don't mind aggression while breeding; I just don't want other tank mates to be terrorized/torn up over it. I wanted to have the possibility of other bottom dwellers like a small group of corys. Would any of these cichlids beat them up?

When it comes down to it, i'm thinking Bolivian because they seem a little more easy going with other bottom dwellers but I really do love the looks of the Kribs...

It seems like you guys really love the Apistos, maybe i'll watch some more videos of them.
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Try one of the checkerboard cichlids. They are small and are actually my all time favorite. Even when they do get aggressive they are still small!

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I don't mind aggression while breeding; I just don't want other tank mates to be terrorized/torn up over it. I wanted to have the possibility of other bottom dwellers like a small group of corys. Would any of these cichlids beat them up?



When it comes down to it, i'm thinking Bolivian because they seem a little more easy going with other bottom dwellers but I really do love the looks of the Kribs...



It seems like you guys really love the Apistos, maybe i'll watch some more videos of them.


My rams and my apistogramma are all peaceful with other tank mates, even other bottom dwellers, unless they get too close to eggs. Then they just chase them off. Corydoras being the least able to learn lol.

During feeding some pecking might happen but itís nothing damaging. However the cichlids do love to chase each other from time to time.


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So i've been thinking and I really want to get the kribensis... Any tank mate recommendations?
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Which kribensis are you looking at? I have moliwe and silviae. They will both own their space when breeding. Very pretty fish that punch way out of their weight class.

A tetra or small barb that stays higher in the water will be ok as a dither.


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Which kribensis are you looking at? I have moliwe and silviae. They will both own their space when breeding. Very pretty fish that punch way out of their weight class.

A tetra or small barb that stays higher in the water will be ok as a dither.


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I'm pretty sure just regular pulcher is at my LPS. I would ask about other kinds but i'm afraid i'm not sure how to pronounce those
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http://aquaticclarity.com/index.php/in-stock-fish/

A good source for Apistogramma and Kribs. Jeff has some really good fish stock. FYI, Caca’s have a life expectancy of about 2 years where a lot of the other sub species will live much longer.
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Regular ole pulcher are pretty cool too


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