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Ram fungus... help

So I got home from out of town to one of my rams has fungus.i started dosing with melafix and primafix. Did a 50% water change... any ideas thoughts... will it get fixed or is the fish a goner.
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Pimafix and Melafix wont do much but make your tank smell funny. Using something like API's EM Erythromycin might be a better choice. Rams are known to be sensitive and its tough to treat them and bring them back to good health so unfortunately it might be a goner. I keep and have kept tons of rams and rarely if ever have I been able to nurse a sick one back to good health.

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Is that Saprolegnia? If it is then the treatment is malachite green alone not in combination with other stuff as found in ich treatments.

Erythromycin is for Gram positive bacterial infections which are exceedingly rare in fish.
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Is that Saprolegnia? If it is then the treatment is malachite green alone not in combination with other stuff as found in ich treatments.

Erythromycin is for Gram positive bacterial infections which are exceedingly rare in fish.
+1.

Saprolegnia is often the result of poor maintenance of aquarium, high organics, and low circulation.
Look at how often you are cleaning the aquarium: changing water, vacuuming substrate, and filter maintenance.

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Is that Saprolegnia? If it is then the treatment is malachite green alone not in combination with other stuff as found in ich treatments.

Erythromycin is for Gram positive bacterial infections which are exceedingly rare in fish.
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Saprolegnia is often the result of poor maintenance of aquarium, high organics, and low circulation.
Look at how often you are cleaning the aquarium: changing water, vacuuming substrate, and filter maintenance.
I always though that since erythromycin is labeled as "broad spectrum" that it could be used to treat both gram positive as well as gram negative bacterial infections?

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I always though that since erythromycin is labeled as "broad spectrum" that it could be used to treat both gram positive as well as gram negative bacterial infections?


Saprolegenia is not a bacteria- it is a mold.
It will not respond to erythromycin treatment. I donít have time to do a lot of typing to explain because not home. But, read the attached article, it talks specifically about why erythromycin is not recommended for treating Saprolegenia. The article first talks about Columnaris in section 1 - scroll down to section 2, this is where it talks about Saprolegenia.
http://www.americanaquariumproducts....is.html#fungus


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I always though that since erythromycin is labeled as "broad spectrum" that it could be used to treat both gram positive as well as gram negative bacterial infections?
It has very limited activity against Gram negative bacteria. While it can work on some Gram negative bacteria, it's better to get a good Gram negative antibiotic.

Erythromycin also isn't very effective in a bath.

I have ~20 different antibiotics stockpiled and erythromycin isn't among them.
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