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And epsom salt- have you added?
started the kanamycin?


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Yes, this is definitely an important consideration- thank you for recommending this.
Just a reminder; be sure to rinse everything you clean in tank water from your water change only and only 1/3 of your bio-media per week.

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Don't have kanamycin, should arrive Thursday.
One filter was cleaned about 3wks ago, other 2wks prior. Stagger them in case one ends up redoing the cycle.

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Yeah, that may be too late. An alternative could have been made in the meantime if I had known.
Did you add epsom salt? ( Can you please answer this?)

Edit: Good luck to you. Im bowing out. Become a bit like pulling teeth for information- too frustrating.
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Yeah, that may be too late. An alternative could have been made in the meantime if I had known.
Did you add epsom salt? ( Can you please answer this?)

Edit: Good luck to you. Im bowing out. Become a bit like pulling teeth for information- too frustrating.
It's in the original post that salt was added....

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Salt- sodium chloride (NaCl) is entirely different than Epsom salt- magnesium sulfate (MgSO4∑7H2O)


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She's moving her mouth much more normally now. I think she's in general a bit pudgy, bulge seems smaller, but I could be seeing things. And acting more normal, staying mostly horizontal and hiding amongst the plants.

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Salt- sodium chloride (NaCl) is entirely different than Epsom salt- magnesium sulfate (MgSO4∑7H2O)
Epsom salt is the salt I was talking about. Have a new, big, unscented bag of it for my horse's face. It's a lot of stress when multiple animals decide to tag team the sick card. Didn't think to specify which salt.

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Okay. Sorry to hear of your multiple illness in pets.
I am happy to help, but need information that is specific or I may be more harm then help.

What have you done today?
Water parameters? The numbers, please.
Describe all symptoms now the fish are displaying? Are any of the symptoms better or worse?
Are you treating in hospital tank or display? Whichever, you want to alleviate stress, turn off lights.
Epsom salt? How much are you giving? Started Kanamycin?

With kanaplex, need to do a large ( at least 50%) water change prior to each dose to lower organics in water. The medication is easily offset by organics, lowering its effectiveness, and clean water will ensure best absorption by fish.
Is the fish still eating? If so, this is the best possible sign may pull though.


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May i just say Discusluv, you rock for helping out so much.

What a cool guy.

This is one area that I have no clue about I have had relatively no sickness in 7 years.

Over filter all tanks and do 50% water changes every week.
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Thank you! That 50% water change weekly is why you dont have illnesses.

And my name is Amy- not a good guy name- lol!
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Thank you! That 50% water change weekly is why you dont have illnesses.

And my name is Amy- not a good guy name- lol!

My bad, you rock Amy.
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Okay. Sorry to hear of your multiple illness in pets.
I am happy to help, but need information that is specific or I may be more harm then help.

What have you done today?
Water parameters? The numbers, please.
Describe all symptoms now the fish are displaying? Are any of the symptoms better or worse?
Are you treating in hospital tank or display? Whichever, you want to alleviate stress, turn off lights.
Epsom salt? How much are you giving? Started Kanamycin?

With kanaplex, need to do a large ( at least 50%) water change prior to each dose to lower organics in water. The medication is easily offset by organics, lowering its effectiveness, and clean water will ensure best absorption by fish.
Is the fish still eating? If so, this is the best possible sign may pull though.
Picture with two tubes is well water out of tap. One tube is nitrate after w/c the other day.
Kanaplex & Furan-2 arrived today.
W/c of 2 inches, idk how much that is, done today. Didn't have time to do a bigger one.
Fed very lightly today, angels were all begging together. BGK picked up sinking flake bits.
Will do a 60+% w/c tomorrow & add more media to one of the filters.

This video from 10min or so ago. She went back to the rear of tank under plants. I shortened tank hours the other day to about 6hr on a day. She is acting more normal and no "panting".
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She also gobbled up all the freshly laid cory eggs. This was yesterday night.
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Idk how to edit on here, new post to answer another question.

Epsom salt since first day, readded after large w/c.


Knowing my tap's ammonia & nitrate is not zero, does that change anything?
Is Kanaplex or Furan-2 better?
Going to attempt to net her.

Her right side, she tends to occasionally swim with it up to the sky. Can right herself and swim in all fancy knife positions when she wants.
She's more active than she has been. Hunting for snails or tidbits of missed flake the others haven't discovered yet.
She's more mellow about the new bubbler now, too.

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You can use the kanaplex and nitrofurazone (Furan 2) together as they work synergistically- the two often used in combination for things such as columnaris or severe cases of bacterial infection that are both internal and external.

Are you dosing in hospital tank or in display tank? Furan 2 is very tough on plants.

If you have .25 ammonia in tap it shouldn't be a problem because an established biofilter ( and plants for that matter) should take care of it within 8-12 hours ( if not sooner.) If after 24 hours it is still there than that indicates the biofilter cannot keep up with the waste from the occupants in tank. Which you know, as I said earlier, you have too much of. I doubt adding more biomedia will be enough to control the waste of these fish. You certainly want to be doing large water changes weekly if you dont want this to crop up again. Some fish have more ability to withstand long term water quality issues for longer than other fish; but all will eventually be compromised by it in the long term. You will begin to see continuous problems as the immune systems of the fish grow weaker.

Looking back over what you wrote it appears that you are putting in a hospital tank. Is it cycled or uncycled?

Make sure to add the air-stone to hospital tank to ensure enough aeration. Antibiotics will deplete dissolved oxygen in water.


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