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post #16 of 80 (permalink) Old 12-19-2018, 10:12 PM
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My wife, who is supportive of my hobby but not passionate about aquariums like I am, even manages to find browsing the wet spot interesting.

I'm on a first name basis with many of the retail staff now if that tells you anything.

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After wanting these for a very long time, picked up a small group of wild Altum Angels from Wetspot.
All came healthy and vibrant.

The fins are a little bit beat up ( typical of wild imports), but no worries... some daily water changes, Vitamins, good food- will be as good as new.


Still acclimating.
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you get fry and we might need to do some trading
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you get fry and we might need to do some trading
LOl! You bet, my friend. How are you?


By the way, my Bristle-nose are all getting fat and sassy.
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We could do a group field trip ...
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We could do a group field trip ...
This would be fun! It looks like @Kubla, @Ken Keating1 and I are all close together. We could do the trip to Aquaworks and coffee visit afterwords sometime.
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30 g. low tech w/ Wild Tucano tetras
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This would be fun! It looks like @Kubla, @Ken Keating1 and I are all close together. We could do the trip to Aquaworks and coffee visit afterwords sometime.
I ment a trip to Wet Spot to pick up more Altums for you.
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If made in advance, Southwest round trip tickets from SFM to Portland are around $200. I'm pretty sure that cost is nothing compared to the exit cost out of the Wet Spot!!
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I ment a trip to Wet Spot to pick up more Altums for you.
Oh-lol1! Well, I think I Aquaworks and coffee sounds more feasible.

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If made in advance, Southwest round trip tickets from SFM to Portland are around $200. I'm pretty sure that cost is nothing compared to the exit cost out of the Wet Spot!!
Oh Boy! It could be bad.
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Beautiful Angels! Please continue to share as they grow.


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Thanks Mike! I definitely will be adding pictures as they grow.
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If made in advance, Southwest round trip tickets from SFM to Portland are around $200. I'm pretty sure that cost is nothing compared to the exit cost out of the Wet Spot!!
We could have lunch or dinner at Whole foods right across the street prior to. I'm in. But then again it's easy when I live 30 minutes drive away.

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There was an interesting discussion in a group on FB the other day about how 99% of the angels sold as altums aren't really altums at all. Never did learn from it what the characteristics are that actually separate the true P. altum from wild caught P. scalare that look like P. altum but IMO it doesn't much matter. If it looks like an altum to most people that is good enough.


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The Altums are doing great! They are eating flake, frozen brine-shrimp, and freeze-dried blackworms/with spirulina.

There is a lot of chasing going on with one fish. This one is a bit of a bully, but, so far no stress showing from the others getting chased. Treating proactively with Paraguard for possibility of external parasites and the benefit of the acriflavine which works as antibacterial for the rough looking fins. As of yet, these areas look bacterial/fungal free. But, have also been doing daily 50% water changes and adding Vitachem in food to build immunity.

After this, will de-worm. Need to always assume internal parasites with wild cichlids.

Otherwise- all good.
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30 g. low tech w/ Wild Tucano tetras
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Are they in a QT or is it their long term home? It looks like there are four? I wonder if they would get along better if there were more? Would you consider supplementing with other types of angels, or are you set on wild caught Altums?


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Are they in a QT or is it their long term home? It looks like there are four? I wonder if they would get along better if there were more? Would you consider supplementing with other types of angels, or are you set on wild caught Altums?
They are in a 60 gallon right now. They will be here for about 6 months and then I will put in my 180 gallon tank. Ideally, yes, more would have been better to disperse aggression, but that is all Wetspot had left. I do not want to mix them with a scalare type because they will cross-breed and dont want that.



Right now this guy is trying to let the others now where their territories are. Discus do it too, although the Angels appear to be more aggressive toward each other than even discus.

What I will be looking for is if the other fish stop eating. If they do, this guy gets a time-out in another tank. Then will be re-introduced after a few days.. This often helps.

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60 g. low tech w/ F1 Alenquer pair /Stendker "Tefe" discus and wild Altum Angels
30 g. low tech w/ Wild Tucano tetras
30 g. low-tech African Biotope
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