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UGF for planted tanks !?

You could do away with costly filtration equipments very easily for planted tanks if you follow my example. I use an under gravel filter (UGF) with some changes in its set up. Before you read further clear your head of all prejudices created by reading comments about UGF from people who has not used a UGF like I set up – for these have been made by people who have no idea about the possibilities an UGF has.

First I will show you how I set up my UGF – you will need PVC pipes, acrylic sheet/fibre glass sheet (or glass if you can hole glass), submersible pumps, stone pebbles/ceramic noodles, filter sand, PVC insect net, some nylon pillow fibre, silicone paste.

Inspect your aquarium vacuum tube. We will be walling off a portion of the tank bottom to house the UGF and no portion of this should be narrower than your vacuum tube. We need to wall of a portion as this is required to avoid the root system of your plants interfering with the filter. It also follows that this portion will remain un-planted for the same reason. Keeping this portion unplanted is also required as you will need to vacuum the gravel/sand in this portion from time to time. This walled off portion need not be in a particular portion of the tank, I will be demonstrating a UGF which is along the front glass, having it there makes it easier to vacuum. It also makes it easy to set up a uniform in-tank flow from rear to front pushing all the muck forward to be trapped in the UGF and removed by vacuuming.

Because I am demonstrating a foreground UGF does not mean you cannot incorporate the system in your aquascaping. A wavy unplanted path between planted portions using special coloured sand or pebbles can be used as the UGF. What you have to see to in such a UGF is that the materials used should stand your regular vacuuming of this portion. You will also have to ensure that the particles are small enough (about 40 mesh) to do the mechanical filtration. If you are going to use coloured gravel you may have to mix it with 40 mesh filter sand in a proportions that the sand is not visible, that is normally 1portion gravel to 2 portion sand, for smaller than pea size gravel. The sand will become visible immediately after vacuuming but will very soon hide under the gravel. You will also need to pay attention to your in-tank water circulation to avoid dead spots, but that is easily done.

You will have to decide on the total area you need to wall off. This depends upon your flow rates and choice of the type of submersible pump you wish to use. Please remember here that more flow is not always better, you certainly do not need a flow greater than twice the volume of your tank every hour, even half that is good enough even for mechanical filtration. Taking flow reading from the chosen pumps’ manuals, convert it into Litres per minute (LSM) total flow. Now put this into the formula given below:-

11 x LSM = Area in square inch required for UGF

Keeping in view your lowest width (the vacuum tube) mark out the area of the tank bottom you intend to wall off. Making a foreground UGF is easier as all you need to do is calculate the width of the rectangle. With uneven (curved) sides and non-geometric figures, you will have to take the help of graph paper to find the correct area by counting squares. Mark it on the graph paper and cut out the final map, place it on the bottom of the tank, and mark the position. With curved/non-geometrical figures you will have to use acrylic or in smaller tanks fibre-glass sheets cut into strips as wide as the thickness of the substrate you intend using ( my substrate is usually 3.5 inch deep), and moulded (heat moulded in case of acrylic), and fixed with silicone to the floor (and sides If necessary). Before you actually silicone the walls you must prepare the pipes. I don’t use UGF plates they take up too much space unnecessarily. Now prepare sized and shaped (in case of non-geometric areas) PVC half inch pipes like spray-bars by cutting or drilling and arranging them in the walled of area with holes made in the wall for pipes to connected to the pumps. For the pictures below I have got the pipes bottom side up to show the spray-bar cuts.

Now using pebbles or ceramic nodules fill the area between the pipes and walls so that you form a platform about the height of the pipes. This is the pure biological filtration area and also the water pool from which the pumps will suck out water. You can see what I have done at this stage using pebbles. This platform is about ¾ inch high.

Now you must cut the PVC insect net to fit snugly in the area wall in. Using silicone paste and/or nylon pillow fibres make sure that filter sand will not be able to sneak into the bottom layer. This is very essential, for otherwise the sand grains will find their way into your pump, even if they do not jam the pump they will eventually reduce the life of the pump by their abrasive action. Now your creation will be looking like this and you are ready for the next stage.

The pipes leading away from your UGF is fitted to the suction side of your pumps at the rear of the tank. These pictures were taken when I was setting up the Incomparable, and here you see the output of the pumps first lead to the top of the CO2 reactors I had built, before escaping from their bottom and through the red spray bar upwards.

Now we fill the filter sand or if you so desire, the sand and gravel mixture into the walled off portion.

Your UGF for the planted tank is now ready for functioning. I set this one up 3 years ago and it is still functioning perfectly. My water is clear. The bottom remains muck free. It collect all the finer debris and holds them for me to vacuum at water change time. I don’t need to vacuum any other portion of the tank
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Great design! I can't see any way to improve on that. This seems to eliminate every problem that people used to have with under gravel filters. I assume the rear red spray bars are pointed up to establish a flow from the bottom to the top, across the tank and back down to the filter. Does this give enough circulation in the middle, near the bottom?

Do you really need to vacuum the filter sand every water change, or is this just good preventative maintenance? Are your water changes once a week?

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i like this alot, could the front filter sand also be planted possibly? like with something that only has shallow roots?

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It's more of an in-tank fluidized bed filter than a UGF. That's very cool in any case. Would glosso, or some other non-rooting ground cover work on the open sand bed. maybe some freshwater clams. lol
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Actually you don't NEED to vacuum the UGF every week (I normally do it every other week). I once let it be for 2 months, but then I could hear the pumps labouring to suck water. I found that the sand had impacted solid with the muck and as soon as it was vacuumed the pump went silent with relief.

No, you can never plant on my UGF as you do need to vacuum it deep ever so often.

You guessed it right Hoppy-The out-put spray bar is faced upwards and slightly tilted to the front. The canopy of the plants directs the water forward through the plants. As I never find any muck on the floor under the plants, I take it for granted that the flow is a total movement from back to front. I once put some aquarium blue into the tank with an air tube right above the UGF. The entire aquarium went blue within minutes. I use this method when dosing my PMDD solutions.

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Awesome idea, I was wondering if you could incorporate an under gravel jet system to the tank as well? The point would be to get the water moving at ground level everywhere making sure that your UGF was the only place that trapped anything.
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I think smaller less frequent holes would maintain a higher pressure in the PVC for the RFUG.

This way the flow is more even across the sand bed.
You do not need high flow rates through this, about 2mm or so holes every 3-5cm distance is plenty.

With planted tanks, the roots have the surface area and the bacteria, so there's little need for high surface area media. It's fine to have a back up in case the plants do poorly, but it's not needed.

I used grid CPVC, a smaller version of normal PVC, for all my RFUG filters for about 20 years, cheaper than the brand name plates, plants did very well in them.

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