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General hole jig vs. Kreg Pocket screw Jig?

I found this General hole jig.
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...10000003+90401
It's $30

A keg's screw Jig is $100.

Will a general hole jig with generic wood screws work fine for joining?


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You can get a single hole Kreg Jig with drill bit and locking collar for $20 at Lowes. It's item number 205297. It's slightly less convenient than the double jig, but the end result is exactly the same.

I also do recommend the Kreg screws, they'll be easier to use because the threading is specific to the application.

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yeah, I saw the single hole jig... That's an option as well.
Is the general jig one ok? I guess I'll have to see it in person to figure that one.


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I own the General jig, and although I haven't used it a bunch I found it to do the job quite well. (Mainly reworking some cabinets in our kitchen)
It comes with screws that are meant for the application as well.

I'll add that I haven't used the Kreg model to have any cross-comparison advice.


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I have the single hole kreg jig and I use it so much that its almost wore out. IMO I think the jig you have the link to might be a better option for one reason it's all aluminum the clamp is built in. The creg jig is plastic and gets a little play in it after lots of use. That general hoile jig looks good to me I like how you just butt it aginst the edge of the board and tighten then your good to go. Thats just my opinion, the general hole jig looks easier to use.
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I'd use the suggested screws - they are pan-heads, so there is a lot of surface area flat against the wood. Wood screws are tapered into the wood.

The Kreg is nice - but a generic would work too.

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Try http://www.ptreeusa.com/online_catalog.htm, or Harbor Freight.

I use the pocket hole only when I have to. For ~$70 at HD, get yourself a Biscuit Jointer
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Try http://www.ptreeusa.com/online_catalog.htm, or Harbor Freight.

I use the pocket hole only when I have to. For ~$70 at HD, get yourself a Biscuit Jointer
I got the Kreg's mini jig.. but it comes with 2 holes now, same price.. I would have gotten the general jig but couldn't find it.

I talked to the guy who worked at Lowes, he's sold on the pocket jig and will leave the biscuit jointer alone.

If I have time, I would love to do dove tails. I think they look pretty.


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I had a cabinet shop for years and IMO pocket screws are the way to go. Biscuits are a PITA for most applications. I think you made the right choice MG, the general jig looks cheesy to me, clamp is too small. I bought something like that for my first try many years ago and the bit broke on the first hole! Porter cable makes a handy little machine that's basically a trim router in a hinged fixture that cuts pockets. Works great ifyou want to take the next step.
P.S. dovetails are not really that difficult to mark amd cut by hand.
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Biscuits are a PITA for most applications.
I LOVE my biscuit jointer! Sure beats doweling... Cause I suck at doweling! (I can never get the holes to line-up, even with a doweling jig...).

I built my stand using almost exclusively biscuits (there are a few pocket screws here and there... but not many).

Here's a pic of my stand (prior to staining):



I love woodworking, just wish I could make money at it.
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I love woodworking, just wish I could make money at it.
How about building custom aquarium stands for people... You can make it prettier and stronger than what you can get at petsmart.


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P.S. dovetails are not really that difficult to mark amd cut by hand.
yeah, but you'd need massive practice.


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Well, that's what a router jig is for.

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I spent about a year just making cabinets, cabinet doors, drawers and book cases for people. I kept an ad in the local newspaper and had more work than I could handle all of the time. I also didn't try to charge craftsman prices, which increased my customer base too. Eventually I got very tired of making doors, and especially installing them. My cheap biscuit joiner was used for almost every cabinet I made.

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I spent about a year just making cabinets, cabinet doors, drawers and book cases for people. I kept an ad in the local newspaper and had more work than I could handle all of the time. I also didn't try to charge craftsman prices, which increased my customer base too. Eventually I got very tired of making doors, and especially installing them. My cheap biscuit joiner was used for almost every cabinet I made.
But, for the time and investment, did it make money (SF-bay area mortgage type money )?
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