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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 10-23-2014, 05:16 PM Thread Starter
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How do I get my new cuttings to stay in my mud? I've ran out of the lead that came with my original plant order and now I'm stuck.
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How do I get my new cuttings to stay in my mud? I've ran out of the lead that came with my original plant order and now I'm stuck.
Search for "plant lead weight" on e-bay, and you will find people selling the stuff.
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I've spent the last week speaking to my brother (a plumber) about how to get such a low grade of lead.....e-bay....HAHAH!!
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There's also a cheap way to go. Depends on the plant of course, but sometimes it is handy to use super glue to attach them to a small piece of gravel that can hide in the soil.
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I guess you'd have to use a food-safe glue, though -- sounds a bit crazy when it only cost a couple of squid to buy the lead. Yikes!
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cyanoacrylate (normal super glue) is safe.


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I find super glue is okay and really very handy for sticking plants like Java fern to things. Tying with thread works but I find it can snag fish so the super glue works for me.
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+1 for the super glue gel

IMO only after trying and failing to plant directly in the substrate though


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I've spent the last week speaking to my brother (a plumber) about how to get such a low grade of lead.....e-bay....HAHAH!!
With all the scare of lead poisoning I think you will fine those "lead" weights have been made of zinc for a while. And before you bring up the Penn Plax weights that say they are soft lead it also says they are non toxic. When was the last time you saw any type of lead that was non toxic?

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Yeah gel super glue works like magic. Just put a 1mm bead, press it against the rock or branch under water, count to 20 and you're done.


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To me the super glue has several advantages over other methods.
It disappears after a while. Thread can also but in the meantime it can come loose and make a hazard to your fish as they tend to drag it around. Glue takes little talent to apply. Thread is a bit of a fight for me. Compared to the plant weights, I always have a good range of small rocks or gravel to fit without having to actually "stock" them but lead weights would be something to try to find as well as keep. Once the plant is done needing the lead, it's still in the tank until I stumble across it to remove it. I just like glue better?
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Buy a small roll solder for drinking water pipes WITHOUT flux. Whatever it is, should be both easily bendable, fairly heavy, and safe for drinking water so should be OK for aquariums.

Note I haven't tried this, but it's a cheap alternative.

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Just a thought. If it's for copper pipes, wouldn't the solder itself contain some copper? Which we all know is a no-no
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Just a thought. If it's for copper pipes, wouldn't the solder itself contain some copper? Which we all know is a no-no
That's a fair question. Most of the solders are copper/tin +/- silver alloys. Considering a majority of the houses in the country still use copper pipes and their fish don't die, I really wonder if the tiny amount of copper (in alloy) can leach out from a small piece of solder.

But I guess it is possible. Especially in low ph water. In higher ph tanks I doubt you can even measure it.

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Just a thought. If it's for copper pipes, wouldn't the solder itself contain some copper? Which we all know is a no-no
There's a small amount of copper in the fert CSM+B
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