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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 08-22-2008, 02:45 AM Thread Starter
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DIY 15 Gallon Double Decker Build Journal

Alright well I managed to get my concept drawn tonight and thought I would post up the start of my build journal.

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I have been trying to plan a stand build for a while now but just couldnt figure out what I wanted. Well finally got it together. 2 - 15 gallon tanks. The top will be my heavily planted tank with no resrictions on inhabitants. The lower will be my planted shrimp breeding tank. It will be display quality as well Im just tired of trying to keep them safe from others while there still very small. I know some one will probably bring up the weight issue for the upper tank not having a support on the front, trust me the problem has been addressed and accounted for. Will be built from 2x4's, 2x6's, 1/4" basswood sheet, and some steel reinforcement inside.

There is a lower cabinet door with internal hinges, and the covers above each tank will be held to brackets on the inside using earth magnets, so instead of having to hinge it out of the way you can just take it off completely.

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Filtration - They will both have there own Cascade 500 canister filter.

Co2 & Ferts- Upper will have Co2 based on ppm and EI dosing. Lower will have Co2 controlled by a pH monitor/controller and no ferts.

Lighting - Lighting for the upper tank is still in the air right now(probably a 70w 10k MH if I can get away with it. While the lower tank will have a 40W 6,5k/10K with lunar lights. All on seperate timers.

Stand - Im going to run multiple out lets through out. Lighting will be mounted to structure above for easy access. The tank offset to the front will also allow plenty of room for all cords and hoses to run behind the tanks down to the cabinet that will house the filters and Co2 tank. Im also going to use one peice glass tops for the tanks as well. The tanks are going to be drilled for an inlet and outlet for the filters too.

Any questions, comments, and all criticizm welcome!

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Its really pretty I dont think ive seen anything quite like it. I usually dont like big black boxy stands but this works very well. You will have to get pictures up as soon as its done. Can't wait! What do you use as the infrastructure?
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Its really pretty I dont think ive seen anything quite like it. I usually dont like big black boxy stands but this works very well. You will have to get pictures up as soon as its done. Can't wait! What do you use as the infrastructure?
Thanks a lot! Im really excited about the build. Hopefully it will be done in the next 2-3 weeks (thats setup and running).

I added the infrastruture information after you made this post

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Aw man that looks like it's gona be fun!

And really nice looking to boot . I can't wait to watch it progress, Good luck~!
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CO2 and no ferts dosent sound good to me
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The co2 in the breeder tank is just to control the ph for optimal breeding conditions

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co2 ph does not affect fish the same way it would if you say add fish...

does get some ro water it is much better

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Hmm yeah never thought about it like that...well judging by your tanks your on the up and in shrimp bring do you have good recomendations on how I should setup my lower tank

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this looks cool i will be watching this build


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Awesome thanks for the support!

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Just wondering if anyone had any clever ideas about the wiring through out the cabinet. Im going to wire a set of outlets for the components, (ie., one outlet for both lights, and outlet for both heater,etc.) Im also going to mount a standard light cheapo light strip in the cabinet just so I can see when Im in there.

But I was wondering if anyone had done anything that was just handy or really conveient in there own stands or had seen and really liked

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How are you going to support the upper tank? A 15g tank will weigh almost 150lb when full of water, it looks like you've got the upper tank cantilevered over the lower without any support on the front edge. I'm not saying you couldn't do it, but I'd be very careful what materials you choose to use and how you plan the construction. If you've got an arc welder I'm sure you've got everything figured out already, if not you might want to start looking for someone who has an arc welder.

I know it would destroy the proportions but you might want to consider allowing more than 7" above each tank, that isn't really much room to get a net in there, or to get larger pieces of driftwood or rocks in and out.


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Well I do indeed have and 220 arc welder. Thought I don't plan on getting it out for this build. I also do 3D design work for a machine fabrication shop....so I have access to all kinds of killer toys.

My plan for the upper is that I'm going to cut a bracket for each side out of 3/16" steel plate with 3/8" holes every 5" in the plate for5/16 coarse wood anchors . The plate will got from 22" off the ground and probably all the way to the top of that cabinet. The same plate will also T out to the end of the upper tank support. The plate will also have a 1" flange bent 90 to wrap around the back of the stand to be bolted on with coarse wood anchors as well.

I think that will be over kill as hell but you can never be tooooo safe.

Love to here back on your thoughts!

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I agree with kornphlake. You have 7 inches between and that would be minus whatever support you have for the top tank. If it is a 2" by 2" you would have 5 1/2" gap. That wouldn't be very convenient for maintenance it could also cause clearance problems with your filtration device. and your lights dependent on what lights you use. I would rethink that part of the design. I like the basic concept a lot though.

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And to address the gap between tanks situation.

Your thoughts on that clearance are a very good point.

Plumbing shouldn't be a problem as It will go through the tank because im going to have them drilled.

With the front panel off it will look like an upside down U. A 2x6 mounted its end on each end and then 3/4 mounted on those to create a shelf.

both tanks will have the light mounted to wood above them.

Hmm....Back to the drawing board I guess. Something I'm really gonna have to wrap my head around. I really really don't want to loose my proportions because I think that's what makes it look so good.

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