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De-rimming 10 gallon tank.

How long should I let it hold water for to text it out before setting it up! I intent to use it as my first shrimp tank.
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Probably 72 hours.


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I think many people may have left the bottom on for additional strength. (?)


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I think many people may have left the bottom on for additional strength. (?)
The thought of derimming a tank scares me. That's a lot of water to clean up. Having said that, aren't all tanks created equal? Don't they silicon the tank like you would any rimless tank and just add the bracing for support? Or do they rely on the braces and silicon lightly?
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That bottom panel is a floater. The bottom trim protects the edges of the 4 viewing panels.

If it holds water for a day, waiting any longer isn't going to make it any stronger or safer.

Just make sure it's set on a dead-flat surface. You can try incorporating some moulding around the tank's lower perimeter to hide the silicone line.

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PS. If you haven't already done so, buy some high-grit (400 or so) sandpaper and run it over the now exposed edges on the top. The top corners are razor sharp under the trim.

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10gallons is a lot of water to poor on a floor , but its not the water its the mold that can grow that creates the biggest problem not worth the risk, that tank was built with a rim for a reason.

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aren't all tanks created equal? Don't they silicon the tank like you would any rimless tank and just add the bracing for support? Or do they rely on the braces and silicon lightly?
Different silicone grade is used on rimless tanks vs rimmed tanks for the most part from my understanding.

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Different silicone grade is used on rimless tanks vs rimmed tanks for the most part from my understanding.
That's what I've heard, too. Some special German high-strength stuff.


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"German" is just the manufacturer's location. Otherwise, it's not necessary to buy German-made silicone. Find one with high shear strength and you should be fine.
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For a 10g tank, GE1 works fine. I built a rimless, frameless 10g and used GE1 and its holding up just fine. It is a flat bottom and not a floating bottom though.

Momentive is the stronger stuff that is used for larger tanks.


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"German" is just the manufacturer's location. Otherwise, it's not necessary to buy German-made silicone. Find one with high shear strength and you should be fine.
Methinks you missed the point, but in essence, yes.


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Be sure to check if the glass kinda flexes or is kinda displaced due to the water pressing against the glass. if so, I would consider using a higher strength silicon to reinforce it.

Also definitely sand the edges because you may hit your hand/arm/maybe head against it by accident. It's not beveled glass so isn't smooth.
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Be sure to check if the glass kinda flexes or is kinda displaced due to the water pressing against the glass. if so, I would consider using a higher strength silicon to reinforce it.

Also definitely sand the edges because you may hit your hand/arm/maybe head against it by accident. It's not beveled glass so isn't smooth.
The silicone is not what causes the flexing. Its the glass itself flexing. And all standard cheap-o 10gal tanks will flex due to the thinness of the glass, even with the rim on.
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