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post #1 of 35 (permalink) Old 09-10-2007, 05:47 PM Thread Starter
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Talking Let's see your plumbing!

Just wondering what everyone's "undercarriage" looks like. I currently have two filters on my 90g (Eheim 2026 and Rena XP3), with UV Sterilizer and inline heater hooked to Eheim output. I'm looking to simplify things and make it a little neater down there. I also have problems with kinks in the line and usually have to push the Eheim into the back corner in a weird position, with zipties on the hoses to keep them unkinked. It's not a mess down there, but it could be better.
I like the PVC solutions that some people have. I assume that you wouldn't be able to hook the heater or UV directly inline to PVC, but would need a piece with a nipple and a small section of hose.
I'm not really looking for the auto water changing systems that some people have, although those are nice. I use a python connected to my faucet and it works fine for me.
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Ahh. Very nice thread. I love the idea of lights turning on when the doors open. Much better than holding a mini flashlight with my teeth when I want to do something down there. Someone also had a paper towel roll down there -- are you kidding me? LOL. Good idea though.

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Ahh. Very nice thread. I love the idea of lights turning on when the doors open. Much better than holding a mini flashlight with my teeth when I want to do something down there. Someone also had a paper towel roll down there -- are you kidding me? LOL. Good idea though.
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I have 100% control of how much flow goes into the tank with this setup, from drop-wise to full-power. I had some leaking issues at first, so I switched out all the barbs shown above from CPVC to nylon. No other issues at all.


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Some UV sterilizers, Current-USA and Pentair, are built to accept standard NPT PVC parts, so they can be fully hard plumbed. But that is a rather pricey solution.

Although I love building things out of PVC, the idea of a fully hard-plumbed setup never appealed to me. Mainly because it really sets things in stone, if you want to make a big change you are going to need a hacksaw. Lots of unions can help this some, but some design choices really do become fixed.

That said, might I suggest some better vinyl tubing? Reinforced tubing is will have a bigger bend radius, but won't kink.

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Fish'InMN - How exactly do you use the "water change valve"? Do you have something that connects to that end?
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YES! A DIY FBF! That's cool! I had wanted to build one myself, but got one for christmas instead.

Does it work well? Can you keep the sand bed fluidized?

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Fish'InMN - How exactly do you use the "water change valve"? Do you have something that connects to that end?
Yes, just a simple PVC L to drain into a bucket. I have not started using it yet as the tank is still easily siphoned, but once plants grow in everywhere I will begin using it for water changes. Or maybe not. Either way, it is the only way to get water out of the manifold without causing a huge mess.
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YES! A DIY FBF! That's cool! I had wanted to build one myself, but got one for Christmas instead.

Does it work well? Can you keep the sand bed fluidized?
At the risk of being a total imbecile, what's a FBF?
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It fluidizes quite easily, the 1.5 lbs of sand I have in it only needs about half the flow of a 265gph pump. If you want more info on it, I'll start a new thread, as I did take construction pictures.

Fluidized Bed Filters are rare on planted tanks as they are kind of redundant, more common on high fish load tanks. But I wanted a 2nd filter for my tank and another canister filter just seemed...boring.
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Is it in any way akin to an UGF?
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A fluidized bed filter is only like an under gravel filter in the sense that they both do biological filtration. A single pound of sand can provide biological filtration for 100 gallons of water, they pack a lot of surface area into a small space.
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That IS really cool.

I was using the lifeguard FB300 FBF before I redid my 29gal. I took it out and only used the mechanical module b/c I think the sand media that they provided was messing with my KH, and maybe (if i can remember correctly) my GH. It also seemed like it just pumped out nitrates, but I can't really think why that would be. It seems like the plants would take care of any ammonia. Maybe I just had too many fish.

I dont really need it now, but I think a DIY FBF thread would be great to have for reference.

Does anyone else have the pentair/lifeguard modules they are using on their tanks? How did you plumb them?

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