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filter for ten gallon

NO before anyone tries to convince me, I refuse to buy a filter.
OK, now that thats over with, heres the question: I want to make, (notice, it's bolded, italicised (sp.?) and underlined), a external filter for a ten gallon tank that you might know of if you saw my other thread, and I hahave a plan beneath. I want to know if this will work or not.

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So your tank will be syphoning into this filter box, right? Keep in mind that if it isn't sealed airtight and it is also below the water line, the syphon will make water leak all over the place. Also consider ease of maintenance. If you want to clean your prefilter pads (the foam on bottom where the water first hits) you'll need to take out the pump, take out the lava rock, take out everything, just to get to it. If you don't mind doing that, it'll work just fine. Make sure you get an airtight seal on that filter - or if you can, put it at the same level as the surface of your tank.


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FIY - that looks a lot like the filter design in this thread:
https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/di...2DIY+filter%22


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I have to ask.....why not just buy a filter? A cheap HOB filter for a ten is like what.....$15?

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It might be just for the fun of building it and saying that you did it yourself. I've been wanting to try something like this for awhile, just to see if I could.


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Mr Gaboozlebag, are you looking to do it as a sealed cannister style or just an open sump type deal?

That'll make a big difference...


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curare, It will be a sealed container.
Mrbelvedere, I want to make a pond filter sometime, and I want to start with something smaller so I don't waste a bunch of money messing up a much bigger filter.
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curare, It will be a sealed container.
Mrbelvedere, I want to make a pond filter sometime, and I want to start with something smaller so I don't waste a bunch of money messing up a much bigger filter.
The materials may be a little cheaper for your ten gallon filter. But, what about the cost of repairing the damage of 7-8 gallons of water on the floor if it leaks? Especially since then the pump will run dry and you would have to replace that also. I DIY almost everything(tanks themselves, lighting, internal filters, etc). But, an external filter that depends on the seal of a container not intended for that use is a risk I am not willing to take. Especially, if the cost savings is minimal to none.

Now, an external basically HOB sump unit would be cool. Just pump the water in and let it flow back in below the water level would be cool. Large enough to hold the heater, CO2 reactor and filter would be nice.
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Read this thread......its a good point to start.


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How big of a container do you think I would need, and what pump?
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mjproost is making an excellent point. you're venturing into uncharted territory here, this isnt like making DIY CO2. You've gotta think everything through and plan it all out. make sure you think about every angle, leaking, maintenance, can i fit my hand in it, how often the sponge needs to be changed, can i fit enough media in there? etc..

ever since i saw guillermos thread i've been thinking about doing this and i was thinking a gallon sized mayonaise jar would do the trick. decent size, screw top for no leakage, big opening in the top for easy maintenance..

give it some more thought you'll find something that'll work really well and everyone will marvel at how simple it is and how well it works!
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Interesting idea, and I applaud your DIY-ishness. I can understand wanting to do something that may be more expensive, just for the sake of doing it yourself - but then, leakage is a great point and I'd be very cautious about potential water damage.

It's only 10-gallons, right? Would you be able to set it up above a big rubbermaid tub? Those things could hold 10-gallons of water, so even if it did spill over then the water would just be in the tub. The fish drying out might be another issue...but at least the water damage would be averted.

Maybe build a simple 2x4 framed stand for the 10-gal, place that inside the rubbermaid, and put the tank/filter on top of that?

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good idea if you had more to work with like a larger tank with a sump.
but on a small tank you may be better off just putting on a small store bought filter. less chance of leaks . Still work on your filter but test it on a small pond outside or some setup outside till you get the bugs worked out.

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i would look for a container that has a lid that is made to come on and off.

most buckets the lid is great when its put on and sealed (most have a strip to keep the tabs in place) so once you open it it may seal watertight, but not securely. they have a tendency to pop off under pressure.


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