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best bang for the buck wood?

So I'm trying to make my own 10 gallon stand. ada style.

So I was wondering what kind of wood that is strong enough to hold 10 gallon water + 25lb substrate + 10lb stones?

I really want to make this stand as clean as possible for my iwagumi setup.

Can you guys help me what kind of wood that can hold those weight and also not hurting my pocket.

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ps. I never take wood shop in high school


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cheapest will be 2x4s or 1x4s you can find some that might be cull to slight dmg and use the good part to save even more cash then just plywood and skin it with a high end piece or cabinet doors. or i u can weld get some angle iron and make a frame and do diamond plate or a stainless steel and rivet it to the frame. there are plenty of cheap options but u need to see what you can make or do wood being the easyest to learn on imo. i got a 150 and 125 that are both on 1x4 so its all how its made 2x4 just easy to come by and hold alot.
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2 x 4 are cheap. You just need to dig through the pile at HD or Lowes and find the ones that aren't as crooked as a dogs hind leg. Then get the thing built before it warps on you. lol

Question though, what they heck is ADA style as far as a stand? I've looked at them and can't really see how it's called a style.
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cheapest will be 2x4s or 1x4s you can find some that might be cull to slight dmg and use the good part to save even more cash then just plywood and skin it with a high end piece or cabinet doors. or i u can weld get some angle iron and make a frame and do diamond plate or a stainless steel and rivet it to the frame. there are plenty of cheap options but u need to see what you can make or do wood being the easyest to learn on imo. i got a 150 and 125 that are both on 1x4 so its all how its made 2x4 just easy to come by and hold alot.

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2 x 4 are cheap. You just need to dig through the pile at HD or Lowes and find the ones that aren't as crooked as a dogs hind leg. Then get the thing built before it warps on you. lol


Question though, what they heck is ADA style as far as a stand? I've looked at them and can't really see how it's called a style.

hmm so 1x4, 2x4 you guys talking about are 1 by 4 foot? is that thickness?

@fresh.salty so people has been calling it ADA style because it mimics the ada cabinets that cost alot of money.

i.e like this thread https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/di...ated-pics.html

except I wanted to be standard 10 gallon All Glass Aquarium with rims hehe

*so I guess Birch wood?
*plywood?


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hmm so 1x4, 2x4 you guys talking about are 1 by 4 foot? is that thickness?

@fresh.salty so people has been calling it ADA style because it mimics the ada cabinets that cost alot of money.

i.e like this thread https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/di...ated-pics.html

except I wanted to be standard 10 gallon All Glass Aquarium with rims hehe

*so I guess Birch wood?
*plywood?
If your going cabinet style then go with plywood (not particle board).

You can get cheaper quality if your going to paint or laminate it, but if you want raw wood then birch is probably your best bet. One side good birch would be ideal either way. For a 10g, one sheet would be more than enough....measure twice (3 times myself) and cut once.


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@fresh.salty so people has been calling it ADA style because it mimics the ada cabinets that cost alot of money.
Ok, they look like the cabinets I built in my garage in the 70's. I built them like that because my Dad build our kitchen cabinets that way in the 50's. lol
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If your going cabinet style then go with plywood (not particle board).

You can get cheaper quality if your going to paint or laminate it, but if you want raw wood then birch is probably your best bet. One side good birch would be ideal either way. For a 10g, one sheet would be more than enough....measure twice (3 times myself) and cut once.

ah ok so 1 piece on all side?


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ah ok so 1 piece on all side?
If you mean construction, then yes. lots of different ways to design it, but in the end ur basically building a box with a door on front.

If you were refering to the part where I said "one side good birch" I was refering to the type of plywood, as in there is one "good" side of the board (no knots etc) just a way they grade the wood. If your going raw wood finish, and can afford it, go with maple. but personally birch does it for me and looks almost as nice, much cheaper.

I recently built an ADA style stand for my 75P, and couldn't be happier!


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If you mean construction, then yes. lots of different ways to design it, but in the end ur basically building a box with a door on front.

If you were refering to the part where I said "one side good birch" I was refering to the type of plywood, as in there is one "good" side of the board (no knots etc) just a way they grade the wood. If your going raw wood finish, and can afford it, go with maple. but personally birch does it for me and looks almost as nice, much cheaper.

I recently built an ADA style stand for my 75P, and couldn't be happier!
Oh okay. Well I think we got some misunderstanding. So yeah I'm thinking any cheap plywood will do. I'm going to spray or laminate. Which one is better? I like how laminate looks but I think it's too expensive.

Do you guys think it's better to nail them or bracers?


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Good wood glue is far stronger than nails, screws, dowels, bisquits, etc. Use Elmer's Carpenter's glue, for example, and the wood will break before the glue joints fail. The reason for using screws or nails is to hold the pieces together until the glue sets, and to let you keep working on it, instead of waiting on the glue after every joint is glued.

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Not to mess your thread up but I just noticed your from Redlands Cali...
I'm from Big Bear Lake but live in Ga. the last yr or so................
Good luck with your stand.. They are alot of work and I myself would rather buy one then make one up...lol
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If your going cabinet style then go with plywood (not particle board).

You can get cheaper quality if your going to paint or laminate it, but if you want raw wood then birch is probably your best bet. One side good birch would be ideal either way. For a 10g, one sheet would be more than enough....measure twice (3 times myself) and cut once.
I personally never, ever measure something if I have a sample of what sits on top. Story sticks are way more accurate and easier to use once you learn how. I've cut down my firewood pile considerably using this method.

As for the OP's question. I'd make the whole thing out of plywood. No dimensional lumber at all. Use pocket screws or tongue and groove (just tried a system of t & g I saw at a woodworking show and I'm pretty impressed with it. It's self squaring for the most part) could also use dados and rabbets with a face frame so you have a place to screw the door hinges to.
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Go with wood board/particle board. You'll find cheap 2x4's warp and are not true.
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I just used birch to make a new stand for my 20L and it wasn't too bad. I sanded it down real good earlier and laid a good coat of some cherry wine color stain, 2 coats later it is looking sweet. Tomorrow coat 3 and I will be good to go. I think I spend under $30 for all the wood.

As mistergreen mentioned, most cheap 2x4's will warp to heck and that can be a bad thing in this situation. Spend some extra bucks now and make this something that will not make you regret saving $20-$40 while you are writing out the check to the 24-hr cleaning and restoration company.

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So I'm trying to make my own 10 gallon stand. ada style....ps. I never take wood shop in high school
I all for people getting more involved, being self reliant. I'm DIY myself. This is a fairly easy project if you already have tools, a work space & some basic skills.

If this was a stand for a fish room I tell you go for it. The best advice I'd tell you is make a materials list and price this job out. Be sure to include tools you may need to buy. Then find a mentor that has some wood working skill to help.

You may find out is would be easier to contact https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/di...ated-pics.html

and have him build you one, prefabbed. Then you just reassemble it when it gets to you.

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