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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 12-13-2011, 08:07 PM Thread Starter
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Who's DIYing Paintball CO2?

I love DIY stuff. I also love piecing together things and making them work. I build just about everything that I do hobby-wise. It's just that this year, with everything else that's going on I don't really have a whole lot of time to buy 15 parts from 15 different vendors. Is anyone DIYing these and selling them? I would be willing to pay a few bucks more for the contraption to save the time it would take me to order everything. My only real requirement is that it be regulated.

If I can't find someone who's selling these, I'll DIY one myself in a few weeks and I'll stick with my original plan of DIY CO2 for now. Just thought I would throw this one out there to see.
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For not much more than a paint ball rig will set you back, you can often purchase a standard size setup.
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Nevermind. I found what I was looking for.
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My suggestion would be to stay away from unregulated setups. These would be setups that only have an ASA on/off valve connected to a needle valve. The pressure can build up to dangerous levels and explode if the line is blocked or clogged.

Here is a video of a regulated setup on a 40 breeder:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vd88LrtzdA (0:25)

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I have the asa top and a needle vale. I am unsure as to which regulator i need for this. Is there anyone that can give me an idea of a regulator that will fit a paintball setup?
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I have the asa top and a needle vale. I am unsure as to which regulator i need for this. Is there anyone that can give me an idea of a regulator that will fit a paintball setup?
I current have this one:

http://www.rap4.com/store/paintball/...-air-regulator

I'm going to be testing Ebay item #170691170358 to see if it works similarly.

Another option is this:

http://palmer-pursuit.com/cart/index...products_id=51

There is nothing particularly cheap. That is part of the lure of the ASA on/off setup.

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I current have this one:

http://www.rap4.com/store/paintball/...-air-regulator

I'm going to be testing Ebay item #170691170358 to see if it works similarly.

Another option is this:

http://palmer-pursuit.com/cart/index...products_id=51

There is nothing particularly cheap. That is part of the lure of the ASA on/off setup.
Thanks for the info and links. I now understand the reason why people are using these paintball setups. If I were single still and lived alone I would go for it anyway because I'm just crazy like that. Even with the chances of something bad happening being remote, I don't think I should do it now with a family.

I still like the idea of the paintball can though, because it's nice and small. I'll have to think about it a little more first. I was going to do the DIY 2L bottle thing, but the more I read about it the more I'm convinced that it may not deliver what I'm looking for. I think the DIY system would work - I think the hold up is people not being able to get good diffusion.
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I suggest you look at adapting a "standard" regulator to a PB tank (the adapters are typically only about $15). That would allow you to switch to a full sized tank in the future, if you chose to, without buying another regulator.

I have a set up such as the one galabar linked to, and I'm quite pleased with it (I get 40~50 days on a 24 oz. tank, for my 40 gallon aquarium), but if I had the space, and hadn't had to mount it horizontally, I would have gone for a larger, "standard" rig. :shrug:
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I was in the same situation as you...originally going to do the DIY Paintball CO2 tank. After seeing some posts about the potential danger...I decided to get a regulated setup.

You can pickup an Aquatek Regulator + CO2 paintball tank adapter for around $80. This is what I am using now and it has worked great for a cheaper setup.


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I was in the same situation as you...originally going to do the DIY Paintball CO2 tank. After seeing some posts about the potential danger...I decided to get a regulated setup.

You can pickup an Aquatek Regulator + CO2 paintball tank adapter for around $80. This is what I am using now and it has worked great for a cheaper setup.
I have been using the ASA type DIY regulator, and its fine, but want a solenoid, so I am also looking to get the aquatek and adapter.

So i agree with everyone else, just buy a regulator, it costs just as much as DIY. And chances are you'll upgrade later anyway, lol.
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I suggest you look at adapting a "standard" regulator to a PB tank (the adapters are typically only about $15). That would allow you to switch to a full sized tank in the future, if you chose to, without buying another regulator.
I had thought about this, but I'm having a hard time choosing a regulator. I suppose I just don't know enough about what the heck I'm supposed to be looking for. I have seen many regulators but what do I want? How much should I spend? And I still have to have a way to get the pb container to dispense the CO2, so I'll still need an ASA anyway. Ahhh!!! I'm slowly moving back towards the DIY 2L bottle idea.

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I have a set up such as the one galabar linked to, and I'm quite pleased with it (I get 40~50 days on a 24 oz. tank, for my 40 gallon aquarium), but if I had the space, and hadn't had to mount it horizontally, I would have gone for a larger, "standard" rig. :shrug:
I just don't care for the larger tanks. And for a 20 gallon, I just don't think it's needed. Getting into the 60 gallon + tanks I might think about it. If I can get a bottle to last a couple of months at a time, why do I want this big honkin' cylinder sitting around?
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I was in the same situation as you...originally going to do the DIY Paintball CO2 tank. After seeing some posts about the potential danger...I decided to get a regulated setup.

You can pickup an Aquatek Regulator + CO2 paintball tank adapter for around $80. This is what I am using now and it has worked great for a cheaper setup.
Do you have a link for something like this?
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Do you have a link for something like this?
I'm looking to get this one, but probably find it cheaper elsewhere.

http://www.amazon.com/AQUATEK-Regula.../dp/B0041YLM7G
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How about this.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A1ZIOKDYA2KMI2

Looks like it has a bubble counter and solenoid built in. You'd still need the tank and adapter. So after all that, you still end up only saving a few dollars over just going with a full size system.
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How about this.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A1ZIOKDYA2KMI2

Looks like it has a bubble counter and solenoid built in. You'd still need the tank and adapter. So after all that, you still end up only saving a few dollars over just going with a full size system.
I looked at that one too. I dont see a difference. I think I read that the solenoid onthe MW gets super hot, but I don't know if thats all solenoids. The aquatek is suppose to be a "cooltouch", and its like $60ish on fleabay.
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