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Here is my sump(pic)

Here is the sump I ened up building based on a 5.5. gallon tank for my 15 tall.
It is installed and running great
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look good man.. but why not add some more medias to make the most of that big sump
bio balls and loads of ehiem medias comes to mind
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I guess I forgot to mention I am feeding the output into my ugf (rugf) style. I am using red florabase substrate and they they reccomend ugf's with it.
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Nice to see a Jebo PIMP. . . I run a Jebo 828 and am very pleased with how quiet it is and it came at a nice price!
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Looks very interesting! Is the water return splashing into the tank? How do you prevent the tank draining into the sump when the pump is off? What is your overflow like, is it drilled?

I am toying with the thought of a sump within the tank, you know, part of the tank separated with siliconed glass, a pump on the bottom, and sponges fit into that on top of it. Really simple and safe... no need for special overflows and special strong pumps and check valves etc.


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I have the water return fed rugf style into my UGF.
The sump tank is very nicely sealed (so no co2 loss) and plants arer pearling for the first time in this tank.
To prevent flooding in a power outage you drill a 1/16 HOLE
into the return line IN the tank at about 1 inch below waterlevel that way if power goes off it will siphon out until the hole gets air and then the siphon is broken in the pump return line.
The overflow has to be removed /or the tank drained below the lowest loop point in order to break the the siphon on that.
Here is pic of the 8.00$ overflow I made from pvc that I am using.
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Looks very interesting! Is the water return splashing into the tank? How do you prevent the tank draining into the sump when the pump is off? What is your overflow like, is it drilled?

I am toying with the thought of a sump within the tank, you know, part of the tank separated with siliconed glass, a pump on the bottom, and sponges fit into that on top of it. Really simple and safe... no need for special overflows and special strong pumps and check valves etc.

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I am toying with the thought of a sump within the tank, you know, part of the tank separated with siliconed glass, a pump on the bottom, and sponges fit into that on top of it. Really simple and safe... no need for special overflows and special strong pumps and check valves etc.
I have seen the end sump done on long tanks to great effect. And on reef tanks with the back a separate partition to lesser effect (not so much room to plant). I WILL do the end on some day if I do a built-in because it makes so much sence. In particular a 'river' tank with lots of flow... Better stop now..

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Erik, thank you for the excellent graphics. Now sumping makes sense to me.

One worry I'd have is that the overflow (the part that's hanging over the tank rim) fills up with air and looses syphon. With all the pearling and bubbling going on...


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Erik, thank you for the excellent graphics. Now sumping makes sense to me.

One worry I'd have is that the overflow (the part that's hanging over the tank rim) fills up with air and looses syphon. With all the pearling and bubbling going on...
That part is not the problem, it's his return that would have me worried, even with the 'safety' hole drilled in it. If he hadn't tested it I'd still be up in arms about it.

But to clarify, the water flow through the overflows is so high that a bubble doesn't get to build up. It could if the power went off for an extended time, say more than 12 hours. But even then, there might be enough pressure to push that size bubble out of the way when the power comes back.

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why runa sump on such a small tank why not go with a sand filter?
or FBF


looks liek a good plan but build a small bio-tower, like for 1 gallon of bio-media
will be more than enough for a over stocked 15 with regular water changes.

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why?

Why you ask well
1) It adds 3 gallons to my 15 gallon tank so I can keep more fish.
2) I get a constant water level (I hate it when I can see light peeking out from under my hood).
3) I can put my heater in the sump and an mini inline co2 reactor.
4) The only equipment left in the tank is intake&spraybar
5) And the real reason because I got to build as practice for my 70 gallon (next..)
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Why you ask well
1) It adds 3 gallons to my 15 gallon tank so I can keep more fish.
2) I get a constant water level (I hate it when I can see light peeking out from under my hood).
3) I can put my heater in the sump and an mini inline co2 reactor.
4) The only equipment left in the tank is intake&spraybar
5) And the real reason because I got to build as practice for my 70 gallon (next..)
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6. may one day achieve a perfect, efficient design and open a Botia Pimp club

Excellent DIY job
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