DIY Biological Filtration - The Planted Tank Forum
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-22-2011, 02:57 AM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 100
DIY Biological Filtration

I recently acquired a Cascade 80 filter. It does not seem to have any biological filtration so I want to add something.

I know a pot scrubber would work but would a magic eraser work as well?

I know people use the magic erasers to clean the tanks but I wasn't sure if it would be good for bacteria build up.
Palmed is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-22-2011, 04:29 AM
Planted Tank Obsessed
 
PTrader: (1/100%)
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Palm Bay
Posts: 436
Just pick up some bio balls or ceramic rings.
Quesenek is offline  
post #3 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-22-2011, 06:38 AM
Wannabe Guru
 
PinoyBoy's Avatar
 
PTrader: (2/100%)
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: WA, USA
Posts: 1,357
Magic eraser is good for cleaning because it has built in soap on it. DO NOT USE ANYTHING THAT HAS ANTI MILDEW/BACTERIA/WHATEVER ANTI ANYTHING. Even if someone says that it's safe, it might mess your tank up really badly unless it is well known that it works.

Cheapest alternatives:
-pillow stuffing
-pot scrubbers
-lava rocks
-dollar store sponges that has no soap or anti anything
-dollar store scouring pad with no soap/anti anything

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/fo...ad.php?t=88677

Currently out of the hobby
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Forum lurking every now and then
PinoyBoy is offline  
 
post #4 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-22-2011, 08:06 PM
Planted Tank Guru
 
PTrader: (16/100%)
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: East Lansing, MI, USA
Posts: 2,710
Magic Erasers come with and with out detergents.
The answer you asked for is no. A Magic Eraser won't make a good bio filter.

A simple option for you is to pick up an AquaClear sponge that will fit, or can be cut to fit, or some form of bio media such as ceramic rings, small bio balls, or just polyester quilt floss.
post #5 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-24-2011, 04:21 AM
Planted Member
 
shortsboy's Avatar
 
PTrader: (9/100%)
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Boston (Melrose), MA
Posts: 255
Petco sells bags of the polyester filler for around $3. Super easy to pack in as little or as much of that stuff as you want to filter.
shortsboy is offline  
post #6 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-24-2011, 04:25 AM
Plant Clown
 
kevmo911's Avatar
 
PTrader: (32/100%)
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Greensboro, NC
Posts: 4,729
I swear I'm gonna fill a media basket with matchbox cars one of these days - just to make a point. I'll see if I've got some micro machines stuffed in a closet somewhere.
kevmo911 is offline  
post #7 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-24-2011, 04:29 AM
Planted Tank Obsessed
 
Nate McFin's Avatar
 
PTrader: (19/100%)
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Grants Pass, Or
Posts: 412
Quote:
Originally Posted by kevmo911 View Post
I swear I'm gonna fill a media basket with matchbox cars one of these days - just to make a point. I'll see if I've got some micro machines stuffed in a closet somewhere.
lol, Some say Chevy or Ford work best, but I am a Mopar guy myself. It would make a good point though.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.




To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Nate McFin is offline  
post #8 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-24-2011, 04:57 AM
Planted Tank Obsessed
 
mickmac247's Avatar
 
PTrader: (10/100%)
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Mass
Posts: 359
Kev I like the keep it simple thinking its unreal how some over think what is neeed hey anyone have any marbles they dont need??/

Anyone can sail a ship in calm waters its when the storms come up shows what one is made of.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
ODAAT
mickmac247 is offline  
post #9 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-24-2011, 05:23 AM
Planted Tank Obsessed
 
trackhazard's Avatar
 
PTrader: (22/100%)
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: LA, CA
Posts: 481
Quote:
Originally Posted by kevmo911 View Post
I swear I'm gonna fill a media basket with matchbox cars one of these days - just to make a point. I'll see if I've got some micro machines stuffed in a closet somewhere.
Little plastic army men work pretty well too.

Shaved PVC or scuffed up pvc rings.

-Charlie


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
trackhazard is offline  
post #10 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-24-2011, 08:23 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 100
Haha Im going to try generic sponges for a few days and see how that goes. I also have some lava rock in my tank. Wont that help with biological filtration?
Palmed is offline  
post #11 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-25-2011, 01:35 AM
Planted Tank Obsessed
 
sajata's Avatar
 
PTrader: (3/100%)
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Chester Springs, PA
Posts: 305
Mr. McGuire: I want to say one word to you. Just one word.
Benjamin: Yes, sir.
Mr. McGuire: Are you listening?
Benjamin: Yes, I am.
Mr. McGuire: Surface-area.
Benjamin: Just how do you mean that, sir?


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
sajata is offline  
post #12 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-26-2011, 05:01 AM
Planted Tank Guru
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Contra Costa CA
Posts: 11,721
Nitrifying bacteria will grow on most surfaces that are used in the filter. Sponges, floss, activated carbon...
So if you have any sort of sponges and floss, then you already have homes for the beneficial bacteria.

To add more bio filtration, I would add lots of plants, and do my best to keep the plants happy. (light, CO2 and other nutrients) rather than trying to grow more bacteria.
Diana is offline  
post #13 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-26-2011, 11:36 PM
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Australia
Posts: 140
Okay I have a problem with the above statement. Please provide advice

Obviously in fishtanks we have both aerobic and anaerobic areas of our tanks

The bacteria that do not particularly like oxygen are nitrogenous bacteria??? responsible for converting the ammonia, nitrite, nitrates etc into less toxic substances.

These bacteria couldn't possibly live in a filtration system could they? Your pumping highly oxygenated water through the system. The bacteria would freak out.
Safez is offline  
post #14 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-27-2011, 07:43 PM
Planted Tank Obsessed
 
sajata's Avatar
 
PTrader: (3/100%)
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Chester Springs, PA
Posts: 305
Quote:
Originally Posted by Safez View Post
These bacteria couldn't possibly live in a filtration system could they? Your pumping highly oxygenated water through the system. The bacteria would freak out.
While the water does have O2 in it is in balance with the Bacteria. Yes all of the nitrifying bacteria live in places like your filter and your gravel they also live on every surface that is submerged or is in constant contact with the water from your tank. Things like BIO balls and ceramic rings have extremal large amount of surface area per unit volume. So the good bacteria is everywhere that is why should not volume the gravel and clean you filter at the same time because you will whack both colonies of bacteria and you could get an ammonia spike because their is nobody left to convert the amonia...


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
sajata is offline  
post #15 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-27-2011, 11:18 PM
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Australia
Posts: 140
http://aem.asm.org/cgi/reprint/69/3/1866.pdf

In the enrichment section it speaks of the useful denitrifying bacteria being faculative anaerobes...

Think about it... Your tank starts to stink within a few days of 0 filtration and 0 aeration...

Your denitrifying bacteria are still doing their job (converting the ammonia in the fish metabolic waste to nitrite/nitrate) however,

The Aerobic bacteria; whom help break down the other compounds in the fish waste... Are no longer able to do so effectively... Nor does the water have surface agitation to off gas.
Safez is offline  
Reply

Tags
None

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Planted Tank Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome