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DIY c02 Paintball Hose

I am setting up a Paintball co2 system. I got some vinyl tubing for the co2 to run through from the needle valve. Will this work? Do they actually sell "co2 tubing"?

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Yes, it will work fine.
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So I tried to hook it all up together to my needle valve and it did not fit. I slide the long piece into the tubing but it made it too thick to put through the nut to attach. Are there different thicknesses of tubing? Did I not get the right tubing?
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Did you bring the piece with you to the hardware store? Lowes sells many different size tubes that you can buy off a roll, cut to size.
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i had the same problem the co2 tubing is too thick, just use regular fish tank air line
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Ive been told that regular fish tank air line wont hold the co2 and it will eventually leak through. Is this true?

I did bring the the needle valve with me and that is what he gave me. Do they sell varying thicknesses of the vinyl tubing?
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yes, normal airline tubing lets much of your co2 escape through the tubing. basically you will just have to fill your tank more often.

Try heating the tubing up (not melting it lol) and just man-handle it on there, at least thats i would try.
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I tried that. I heated it up to get the pin on about half way. Thats the most I could get it on. Do they sell varying thicknesses of tubing?
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Ive been told that regular fish tank air line wont hold the co2 and it will eventually leak through. Is this true?
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yes, normal airline tubing lets much of your co2 escape through the tubing. basically you will just have to fill your tank more often.
No, this is incorrect. Regular airline tubing as well as silicone airline tubing is fine for CO2 uses.

You can spend more on CO2 resistant tubing if you want, but it is not necessary.

There are some permeability tables that are out there that will show you that silicone is many times more permeable to CO2 than other types of material, but the order of magnitude is something like 10^-5...

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I did bring the the needle valve with me and that is what he gave me. Do they sell varying thicknesses of the vinyl tubing?
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I tried that. I heated it up to get the pin on about half way. Thats the most I could get it on. Do they sell varying thicknesses of tubing?
Yes, stores will have tubing with varying wall thicknesses, etc.

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Getting that piece to slide in and the bolt over the top is QUITE difficult. Kindof like a puzzle. I know I had a tough time with it with that hosing, but its do-able. Promise

Try slipping it through as far as you can, and grabbing some pliers and clamping down on on the back of the nipple part and the back of the threaded part. Once you get the threading to touch, you can wrench it down to get it seated completely.

Definitely the trickiest part of the setup.


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fish tank hose is fine, how much co2 do your really think you would loose over a 6 foot or so section of tubing running like 2bps anyway?
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I think at least part of the reason that regular vinyl tubing isn't recommended (beyond the fact that there is a slight loss of CO2 as darkblade mentioned) is that it becomes more brittle over time than silicone or other CO2 resistant materials... But some may disagree.

+1 on heating it up to slip the inside fitting in. (make sure that the nut is on the tube first) then hold the nut in a vice and place a small philips head inside the inner fitting. Then, gently tap the end of the screwdriver with a hammer until it fits in snugly. I have made these setups a few time myself and it is always a PITA getting that joint right.
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i even lubed the co2 line up with KY when i tried and it wouldn't work LOL in the end i put normal air hose and its working fine....if it gets brittle ill just change it its only a 5 foot section anyway
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