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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 03-29-2011, 05:39 PM Thread Starter
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DIY-Hanging Garden in Planted Tank help needed

After seeing this aquascape image i got this idea



so i taken one pyramid from my home this pyramid is hallow inside

this pyramid full image



the hallow side of the pyramid






CS of pyramid




so i like to add few stone or any weight iteam in side the pyramid and going to close it with mseal to prevent any water flow inside.

And then going to make 4 hole in each side of the pyramid and useing thread going to connect it from he top,so that it will floot in centre of the tank.

btw i also like to make the thread less visible so like to use white nylon wire and even cover that wire with moss

so i need your help and suggestion in this work.

i dont know how to make that pyramid like rock or mountain but i have little idea useing glue mix and fine sand paste it all part of the pyramid

and then use Plaster of Paris make that surface uneven to make moutain like effect. will Plaster of Paris reslove in water?

after that another coat of sand and small stone.

after that attach lot of moss.

i need your help in this work i dont know how it going to work so please suggest me how i can make that object as mountain like effect.

what glue shd i need to use to attach the sand and all
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The picture you use as reference uses styrofoam and magnets to hold it in place.
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The picture you use as reference uses styrofoam and magnets to hold it in place.
will magnet work for long run ?

also can u guide me how to make good effect of mountain in styrofoam?
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i would not use plaster of paris or any other water based type materials for holding something in or near water. Lots of people have used spray/expanding foam ie Great Stuff or I know they make one for use around ponds, check a local hardware store.
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I think in that aquascape, he placed small rocks tied with moss on the styrofoam and used VERY strong magnets to hold it all up.


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I think plaster of paris is what they use to make those dissolving feeder blocks - the ones that slowly dissolve and release food while you're away.

It might not work out to well for tank decorations.

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Others seem to use a black plastic mesh held slightly away from a surface to put moss behind and then let it grow through. You could attach the mesh with a hot glue gun/silicone/or epoxy glue to form the framework for the moss to attach itself to, though you may need to roughly sand the surface for any glue to be able to form a mechanical bond with that plastic surface.
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I think they use styrofoam in a pyramid shape. Attached moss with some sort of mesh, glued rocks. The whole thing is held up by suction cups. Because the styrofoam floats, the weight of the rocks won't be a problem. Just don't put too many rocks on it!


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Plaster of paris is made by mixing powdered gypsum with water: I'm pretty sure it will dissolve. It will likely also raise your kh, and introduce sulfur into the tank -- gypsum is calcium sulfate dihydrate (wikipedia is my frieeeeeend ).

If you want "invisible" threads, why not low-test fishing line? It's designed to have low visibility in water, after all.
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Epoxy is your best bet for a glue that is waterproof and fish safe. Some of the people that make custom rock backdrops use concrete for what you are proposing to use plaster of paris for. The cure time can be as long as a month, but it shouldn't dissolve once set. At any rate I would do a search on diy rock backdrops for some ideas on good materials to use. The suggestion of low test fishing line is a good one, look for something like 7x tippet material found in fly fishing shops, that stuff is pretty much invisible in water.
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sorry forget to update

at end i done something with glass

this is the end result

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