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How do I prep fresh cut manzanita with the bark still on???

I am sorry if this is the wrong forum for this. I wasn't sure where to post?

I bought some fresh cut manzanita twigs/brances that were meant for craft purposes because I couldnt find anything I really liked anywhere else. I have no clue how to prep them for my 10 gallon?

The wood is super spindly, soft, and thin so I cant use force to get the bark off. Is there something I can soak it in?

Do I need to bake it to dry it all the way out or something?

I am totally lost here. Can someone help?




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I'd personally try running it through the dishwasher without any chemicals, and then trying a pressurewasher.

It's not absolutely essential that the bark come off, but it will rot and could affect your water quality, so keep an eye on that if you can't get it off.





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I'd personally try running it through the dishwasher without any chemicals, and then trying a pressurewasher.

It's not absolutely essential that the bark come off, but it will rot and could affect your water quality, so keep an eye on that if you can't get it off.
Yet another reason to force my SO to buy me a dishwasher!!!

So what can I do if I dont have a dishwasher OR a pressurewasher?




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Soak and peel?


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I have an azalea bush that I found recently cut. It was still "live" when I got it. I hosed the roots out very well (which was more difficult than I imagined), scraped off the finer roots, leaving larger roots (half-pencil size) .


I then dried it in the oven for 7 hours at about 250. Wood doesn't usually burn until it reaches MUCH hotter temps so it was fine.

Now it's on the back porch, in a 30g barrel, soaking until I need it. I'll anchor it to a ceramic tile to hold it steady when it's time.
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I just stuck in it the tank really quick to see how it would look an snap a pic or two. It sunk just fine and I LOVE how the bark looks! Its so red and pretty!!!

Can I just leave it in the tank how it is and put some of the stuff that sucks out tannins in the filter? Whats that stuff called? Purigen?




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Fresh wood needs to cure for a while. The bark, sap and leaves have toxins in them and will need to age to render them harmless.


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Fresh wood needs to cure for a while. The bark, sap and leaves have toxins in them and will need to age to render them harmless.
Will boiling it make it safe?

How long is a while?




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Leave out in the hot sun for a year. Take it from me you do not want to just boil and put it in. In 2 weeks you will have a tank full of sap.


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I have an azalea bush that I found recently cut.
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Now it's on the back porch, in a 30g barrel, soaking until I need it. I'll anchor it to a ceramic tile to hold it steady when it's time.
Maybe this doesn't matter for fish, but azaleas are known to be quite toxic to mammals. I see that the toxins are mainly in the bark and leaves, and are water soluble to boot, so it may not matter in this case, but I'd be pretty reluctant to stick azalea wood in my tank.
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Ok, is there some kind of alternate method i can use? like sealing it with something? Maybe dipping the cut ends in epoxy or sealing the whole thing with krylon fusion clear?

I really dont want to wait like a year.




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Ok, is there some kind of alternate method i can use? like sealing it with something? Maybe dipping the cut ends in epoxy or sealing the whole thing with krylon fusion clear?

I really dont want to wait like a year.
You have too, maybe 6 months. This is why people find dead mazi or age the mazi.

You can try to encase the entire wood in a block of epoxy


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You have too, maybe 6 months. This is why people find dead mazi or age the mazi.

You can try to encase the entire wood in a block of epoxy
Well that really sucks.




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Maybe this doesn't matter for fish, but azaleas are known to be quite toxic to mammals. I see that the toxins are mainly in the bark and leaves, and are water soluble to boot, so it may not matter in this case, but I'd be pretty reluctant to stick azalea wood in my tank.

Holy cow. Read that comment about the "mad honey", that's some scary crap.

Well anyhow, I'll test it first. I did get it at the end of winter before it was full of sap for the growing season. I'll do some water changes in the barrel and proceed with caution.
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Leave out in the hot sun for a year. Take it from me you do not want to just boil and put it in. In 2 weeks you will have a tank full of sap.
It it was harvested in winter and had few/no leaves, sap is much less of a concern (still cannot ignore it). Woodturners like myself only harvest some woods like magnolia and holly in the dead of winter when sap production is at a standstill or else it deteriorates and blotches up the wood pattern.
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