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how hard is it to make a tank rimless?

i got a used 20 gallon high and i have been thinking lately about taking the rim off.

how difficult is this? how likely is it that the tank will just flop when it is filled with water? what can i do to make sure the tank stays together if i take the rim off the top?

and, along the same lines, how would i make a cover for it? i can get plexiglass at the hardware store here so i was thinking i could use that for a cover.

i was thinking i would attach the light to the stand.

what do you think?
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You can find directions HERE.

It seems easy, but I hear a lot of people crack the tank, so be careful. With a 20G, you shouldn’t have to worry about it coming apart.

I made a lid for mine by having pieces cut at a local plastic shop. Most can cut, drill, router, etc to your specifications (or you can do it yourself, if you have the tools).


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just be careful to use a long enough box knife. i think thats what i did wrong. i had a few chips around the edges, where i didnt cut the silicone enough. so when i pulled the rim up, it took a few chips of glass with it.

but, it still looks good for my first attempt. just make sure you get as long of a box knife as you can.


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thanks guys!

i am getting more and more excited about this! i am planning to do an iwagumi style and i really can't wait to get it all set up. yay!
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I wouldn't. Glass on the tanks is relatively thin. You could get 1/4" glass from a local glass cutter, cut to the dimensions. My local cutter said he could make 5 15X15" 1/4" thick plate to me for 25$...


20G high's glass is a little less than that...


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I don't think the rim on a 20-long really gives it much support, honestly. There's no center brace. I've seen a number of them "de-rimmed", but it never looks as clean as a true rimless.


If you want to make quick work of removing that plastic rim, use a razor knife heated up, very hot, using either a torch or any kind of reasonably large flame. Just keep in mind that the knife doesn't know, nor care, about the difference between plastic and finger-flesh....
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I wouldn't. Glass on the tanks is relatively thin. You could get 1/4" glass from a local glass cutter, cut to the dimensions. My local cutter said he could make 5 15X15" 1/4" thick plate to me for 25$...


20G high's glass is a little less than that...
i would love to do something like that but we don't have any glass cutters around here. i live in a SMALL town.

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I don't think the rim on a 20-long really gives it much support, honestly. There's no center brace. I've seen a number of them "de-rimmed", but it never looks as clean as a true rimless.


If you want to make quick work of removing that plastic rim, use a razor knife heated up, very hot, using either a torch or any kind of reasonably large flame. Just keep in mind that the knife doesn't know, nor care, about the difference between plastic and finger-flesh....
thanks. i will give it a try and hope i don't botch it up too bad. i will try really hard to leave all my fingers intact as well!
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I found it worked a lot easier if I used a tiny plane to remove the top outside corner of the rim, almost down to glass. And, I used a small hacksaw blade to gently cut the rim almost to the glass at the corners. Even with that it isn't an easy to do job, but with patience you could do it. I chipped some bits of glass off the corners too, by not cutting quite through the silicone. (I'm not always patient.)

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thank you for the tips

i am definitely not a patient person but i will REALLY try hard to be for this!
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thank you for the tips

i am definitely not a patient person but i will REALLY try hard to be for this!

Good luck! post some pictures!


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thanks!

i will post pictures. i am planning to keep a sort of journal of the whole process. i am not sure if i will post it here though because i am no where near as good as the rest of you guys on here! maybe i will start a journal...
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thanks!

i will post pictures. i am planning to keep a sort of journal of the whole process. i am not sure if i will post it here though because i am no where near as good as the rest of you guys on here! maybe i will start a journal...
Don't underestimate the value of seeing what others are doing as an education for all of us. We are all good at some things and total beginners at other things. I would always rather learn from other's mistakes than have to make them for myself, too.
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thanks i will most likely do it.
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Like hoppy said earlier patince is your best friend if you happen to go along with it. l've tried de-rimming 10gs from walmart and rushed and chipped the corners. 2nd time l got it right but boy was l surprised at how careful you have to be in order to succeed.

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thanks! i will have to take many breaks and do lots of deep breaths and hopefully i will have the patience needed. haha!
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