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is 2x4 stand for 20 gallon tank overkill?

I've got a nice twenty gallon tank empty and just sitting on the basement floor right now and i'm thinking I'm going to build a proper stand for it, i've found plans for using 2x2s and maybe that is sturdy once you add the walls and what not but it made me a little leery about stability.

I was planning on using 2x4s for the main framing then use quarter inch ply for the walls and then trim up with 1x4s which will be used as extra support along the verticle 2x4s so there will be extra stability added there. I'm wondering if this is overkill for a stand for this small of a tank, seems like the weight of the thing is going to be pretty heavy when finished.

I guess the one thing i'm thinking is that i won't ever have to worry about the thing failing, maybe that is the point
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i always think that more 2x4's is better. at the end of the day, it is those 2x4's that are preventing your tank from falling due to instability. for a 20 you can get away with not having a center brace in the front middle, just put one in the back.
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on the platform the tank will sit on i was actually going to be using 3/8ths plywood to top up the frame, originally i was going to put a horizontal center brace from front to back and then not use a vertical in center front or rear, but you're saying i can skip the center brace from front to back but make sure this is a vertical center brace in the rear?
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on the platform the tank will sit on i was actually going to be using 3/8ths plywood to top up the frame, originally i was going to put a horizontal center brace from front to back and then not use a vertical in center front or rear, but you're saying i can skip the center brace from front to back but make sure this is a vertical center brace in the rear?
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like this:
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ium-stand.html
check out post #8
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Ok, I see what you're getting at, I'm not using that exact design, but i see how i can easily incorporate that into mine. Thanks!
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yeah no problem. take pics when you are done.
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For a 20 gallon tank 1x material with a plywood skin glued on would be fine. With clear grade wood you wouldn't even need the plywood, but that isn't very cost effective.

If 2x4 material is easier to work with, go for it.
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for building my 20 gallon stand, i used 2x2s and an inch thick piece of wood on top.



it was pretty easy and can hold lots of weight without wiggling.
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just for future reference it is damn hard to get anything true and square using wood straight from the lumber yard. Next tool on the list before attempting another project, a decent planer.
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see this thread for stand/canopy ideas:
https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/di...iy-stands.html
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for building my 20 gallon stand, i used 2x2s and an inch thick piece of wood on top.



it was pretty easy and can hold lots of weight without wiggling.
It will be a lot better if you add a sheet of 1/4 or even 1/8 inch thick plywood on the back to prevent it from collapsing from a sudden push to one end. That is the main weakness of open stands like that.

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For a 20 gallon tank 1x material with a plywood skin glued on would be fine. With clear grade wood you wouldn't even need the plywood, but that isn't very cost effective.

If 2x4 material is easier to work with, go for it.
I agree. Mine is basically 1x4 yellow pine with inlaid luan plywood panels on all 4 sides, with the top and bottom connected with plywood shelves on runners. my 20H sits on this, and it is mega study. (the 1x2 runners on the inside were for an old shelf)

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skinning it will make it 10x more stable as any wiggling will be canceled out by the ply. even if you're just using 1/4" ply, it will be a world of difference. if you stain it, even better

2x4 is way over kill, but they do provide peace of mind, for whatever that's worth

and I just purchased a planer kit from Harbor Freight Co. for $12. it includes two planer, one wide enough for a 2x4, the other for big surfaces like counter top. can't beat $12!! oh, FYI, i purchased one from HD for $10 but it's only the smaller one.
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Well, perhaps it is overkill, but the 2x4's are what i had on hand so i went with it. And I definitely will not have to worry about this holding weight either or being even the slightest flimsy. here is the frame and then the paneling. I'm going to add trim and then make a door for the front, the trim and stain will probably come next weekened, as for the door, we'll see how soon i can get motivated for that. And eventually I'm going to make a hood cover for the top. This is the first thing i think i've built in the way of furniture and i'm pretty impressed with myself, even if no one else is.
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I was going to add the center vertical brace in the rear but with the paneling and the trim i'm going to add i didn't feel like i was going to gain much from it. but i will be doing that when i build the stand for the 30 gallon
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Monty would it be possible for you to post any more pictures of that stand?

I like that alot!
Maybe a few pictures before the plywood was applied?

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