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tiny bubbles all over the surface

am i adding too much co2 in my tank, there are plenty of tiny small bubbles on the surface of my tank water, they don't seems to break either but just siting there. looks like there are mist type bubbles all over the surface of the water. co2 drop checker is lime green, any suggestion?


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Best bet is to observe the behavior of your fish. If they act sluggish or are gasping air, you have too much CO2.

I have little bubbles circulating around my tank and settling at the surface with DIY CO2, so I wouldn't worry too much.

If your drop checker is lime green, you can probably reduce the amount of CO2 to 3 BPS, or until it is a little bit less yellow.


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Best bet is to observe the behavior of your fish. If they act sluggish or are gasping air, you have too much CO2.

I have little bubbles circulating around my tank and settling at the surface with DIY CO2, so I wouldn't worry too much.

If your drop checker is lime green, you can probably reduce the amount of CO2 to 3 BPS, or until it is a little bit less yellow.
i cant tell much from the fish about how much co2 is in the water, my fishes are very small and i never seen them gasping for air, even if the co2 drop checker goes to yellow. i cannot reduce the BPS as it takes longer for the co2 drop checker to get to green in 3 hours, so i leave it at 4-5 bps. i never use air pump either because i never seen any of my fish died from oxygen problem, my drop checker stays green constantly green when the lights are off and co2 is off as well.

i was watching the mist which was forming on the surface, i don't think it was caused by co2, i think it was caused by oxygen because some of my plants were pearling small bubbles here and there. and the mist bubbles did not break because i believe there is some kind of layer created by the fertilizer on the surface which blocks the bubbles from escaping. most of people would see a white color layer on top of the surface of water which is created by chemical fertilizers.
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Thats protein surface scum. If your DC isnt yellow, or is and your fish are fine, you should be ok. Im not real clear on the point of "too much co2 though" I guess ive never really heard of the point where you might be just wasting it. I would doubt that you are though if your fish arent gasping and lazy looking. Are you sure youe 4dkh solution is right and not diluted of too strong?

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Thats protein surface scum. If your DC isnt yellow, or is and your fish are fine, you should be ok. Im not real clear on the point of "too much co2 though" I guess ive never really heard of the point where you might be just wasting it. I would doubt that you are though if your fish arent gasping and lazy looking. Are you sure youe 4dkh solution is right and not diluted of too strong?
i got the dkh solution from ebay and the instruction says to add your tank water and add 3-4 drops of the solution in it, i don't think this would give me accurate results. but that is what i use for right now.

should i use distilled water to mix it with the solution ?

i will let you know if my fishes gets drunk from co2
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Never, never, never pay any attention to instructions that come with a drop checker from China. You are using it incorrectly. You need to put 4 dKH water, made from distilled water and a tiny amount of bicarbonate of soda, in the drop checker bulb, followed by 2-3 drops of pH reagent, like API pH reagent, which makes the water blue at pH of about 7.2 and yellow at a pH or about 6.0. The way yours is set up, if it works at all, it is measuring the pH of the tank water, not the ppm of CO2 in the tank water.

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Never, never, never pay any attention to instructions that come with a drop checker from China. You are using it incorrectly. You need to put 4 dKH water, made from distilled water and a tiny amount of bicarbonate of soda, in the drop checker bulb, followed by 2-3 drops of pH reagent, like API pH reagent, which makes the water blue at pH of about 7.2 and yellow at a pH or about 6.0. The way yours is set up, if it works at all, it is measuring the pH of the tank water, not the ppm of CO2 in the tank water.

where can i buy that solution from, sorry i don't know too much about the drop checker, unless you could post a direct link to something. Hoppy please check you PM box.
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Sumo regulator sells a combined 4dkh water & reagent
Greenleafaquariums sells 4dKH water by itself
And there is always at least one seller on ebay selling a 4dKH water bottle.
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You can buy the 4 dkH reference solution, or you can make it yourself.

Here are the instructions:

https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/ge...ndard-how.html

For the drop checker, you have to use a 4 dkH reference solution as mentioned, and also bromothymol blue as a the indicator solution.

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thanks guys, i have ordered the 4dkh solution and we will see how it will work for me.
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