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Diy Co2 with carbonated water?

Has anyone used Diy Co2 with carbonated water? Was Takashi Amano used it in the beginning.

Found a thread on it here
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Seems like a masochistic way to go about adding CO2.

You could do it. Adding carbonated liquid to a non carbonated liquid avoids the 'foam up' that you get that you'd have if you added a non carbonated liquid to a carbonated liquid, keeping more of the CO2 in solution. (Add champagne to orange juice, observe fizz, add orange juice to champagne, notice that you get less fizz).

If you made a large bubble counter on an existing yeast CO2 system, you might be able to make your own carbonated water.

Its just a novelty however. Not practical. We could buy our own hydrogen and oxygen tanks and make our own tank water, but there's better ways to go about it..

You could use a container of baking soda, and set up a drip system of vinegar to make CO2 as well..
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Seems like a masochistic way to go about adding CO2.
masochistic
adj : deriving pleasure or sexual gratification from being abused
or dominated. Is this what you meant?

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You could use a container of baking soda, and set up a drip system of vinegar to make CO2 as well
This seems interesting. I had tried the yeast solution but the smell irritated my sinuses. I shall try the vinegar. I use it to clean so it shouldn't irritate my sinuses.
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or dominated. Is this what you meant?

This seems interesting. I had tried the yeast solution but the smell irritated my sinuses. I shall try the vinegar. I use it to clean so it shouldn't irritate my sinuses.
Basically. I meant you'd have to enjoy going about things the hard way to do the carbonated water...


Dunno how cost effective that would be, but for giggles I made a bottle with two pipes sealed in it. One pipe was hooked up to my bubble counter and the other pipe I injected vinegar with a syringe.. It immediately made quite a few bubbles, and very quickly stopped after I added the vinegar.
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Decided to dose with Hydro peroxide and decrease Excel for 3ml daily to 1ml.
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Took much money. But somthing else to try for fun.
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Took much money. But somthing else to try for fun.
What took to much money? Hydro peroxide 473ml cost $.75.
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I'm not aware of any method to convert hydrogen peroxide into CO2, care to share?


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I'm not aware of any method to convert hydrogen peroxide into CO2, care to share?
I am not converting hydrogen peroxide into Co2. Still dosing Excell but just 1ml a day.

Hoping the H202 will help the plants adjust to low Co2. For hydrogen peroxide adds oxygen to you water and cleans the water of pathogens. Benefits include healthier root systems, increased nutrient uptake, thicker stems, and bigger leaves.

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I am not converting hydrogen peroxide into Co2. Still dosing Excell but just 1ml a day.

Hoping the H202 will help the plants adjust to low Co2. For hydrogen peroxide adds oxygen to you water and cleans the water of pathogens. Benefits include healthier root systems, increased nutrient uptake, thicker stems, and bigger leaves.

What are you basing those benefits on? I can't recall reading anything about those being benefits of peroxide.

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What are you basing those benefits on? I can't recall reading anything about those being benefits of peroxide.
+1. State your sources please.

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+1. State your sources please.
jasons-indoor-guide-to-organic-and-hydroponics-gardening.com

The krib

At the krib read that Hygro sunset had a negative affect to H202.

I am dosing 3ml of H202 for a week then decreasing to weekly.
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At the krib read that Hygro sunset had a negative affect to H202.

I am dosing 3ml of H202 for a week then decreasing to weekly.
The first link has quite a few errors, some of which are blatantly obvious to those even with a general science degree.

The second link from the Krib simply discusses using hydrogen peroxide in killing off BGA, which is already quite common. It only works because of the potent nature of the peroxide molecule.

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lol...cant wait...

in a week or so...there will be a new thread

"Help, my plants are all dying!!"


on another random note...the mods should start a sticky thread about CO2 sources...
I swear...this topic (CO2 from carbonated water) pops up every week or CO2 from some other random source or outlandish idea

what if I start a gasoline fire in my tank!??! if I can get complete combustion itll just be more water and CO2?! what you think?

the fact is...we use CO2 tanks...pressurized or yeast/sugar mix because it is the most COST effective way to introduce CO2 and dissolve it in the proper levels...

instead of looking for crazy sources...learn to use the resources available to you properly

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