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A Hill's Rack, failed sorta kinda, and it is now moving locations.

As many of you probably know negotiations with the parents over the past four years have been touch and go for me. I would get a tank rack approved then denied regularly so I basically would get my hopes up and after a while I gave up completely.

Now my parents have agreed to it, or my Dad has... as of now...

Anyways here are the rough details, I've got most of the basic stuff down but any and all advice is appreciated especially where light is concerned.

Tanks: 12 10g aquariums, ends facing out. Glass covers DC method.
Lighting: T5 single or double per level I'm not sure exactly yet (probably start off with just one and see how that works, go with great reflectors etc)
Rack: 2x4 construction for framing and plywood for shelf tops. Most likely unpainted or painted gray, navy blue, or a random fun color.
Filtration: Air pump, although little to no fauna will be in the system (it'll be my ultimate moss growing rack!!!!)

I'm also probably getting a sink for it to help with maintenance. I may get a dozen or so 2.5 gallon tanks too, not sure yet.

Electrical will also be wired specifically for this first rack. Grounded socket, mechanical timers on everything etc.

The best part is eventually, I'm adding a webcam to watch my rack from college Then I can also have my brother grab the webcam and give me better visuals on all the tanks while I'm away or something. This is a last step mid summer.

Its going to be fun, I'll update photos this weekend.
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Sounds TOOOOOOOOO COOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!
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She has finally accepted it I guess. The whole I've been accepted to all my colleges so far helped a lot, also not really telling her much until I've started really getting stuff helped as well. (3 rejection letters coming soon though really reach schools)

One thing I'm not too sure on yet is what T5s to go with, I'm probably going to wire my own stuff up and put ballasts on top of the stand or something so I figure I'll try one per level (3 levels, 4 feet long = 12 tanks, 120 gallons, 12 species of moss at one per tank, and if this works well rack number two coming to a location soon!) but am worried it won't give enough light spread with good reflectors so I'm not too sure yet.

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At 20" front to back I think you will need eihter 2 or 3 bulbs to get the lighting your looking for. Maybe 3 T5NO bulbs?

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At 20" front to back I think you will need eihter 2 or 3 bulbs to get the lighting your looking for. Maybe 3 T5NO bulbs?

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Its going to be interesting...

I'm going to try and make it work with two per shelf to start but I'll see as time goes on.

I'm going to try and stay no co2 with this setup, because if I use CO2 I'll need a 20# tank or something large.

The build might happen next weekend, I've been sick.

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So I bought the wood today $60 worth of 2x4s and plywood. This afternoon it'll all be cut and hopefully by this time tomorrow there will be a rack standing in the basement!

Now I'm looking to figure out my lighting situation. I'm thinking 2 T5 bulbs per shelf, initially I'm going to do two shelves and they're 24 deep so the light probably won't be super even. Right now, I'm looking at $100 max on light. This may mean only one rack gets T5 but I'm hoping I can do both lighting with t5s. I'm probably going to buy the coralife ones and strip them down. I'm not sure exactly. I'm probably going to make a lighting thread.

So it is getting going!
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Why were they changing their minds so often? Was it the Electric bill they worry about? Hows the upkeep for all that? You paying for it? This is an awesome idea man ... are you going to be selling any of that moss? Your own personal store lol

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So I bought the wood today $60 worth of 2x4s and plywood. This afternoon it'll all be cut and hopefully by this time tomorrow there will be a rack standing in the basement!

Now I'm looking to figure out my lighting situation. I'm thinking 2 T5 bulbs per shelf, initially I'm going to do two shelves and they're 24 deep so the light probably won't be super even. Right now, I'm looking at $100 max on light. This may mean only one rack gets T5 but I'm hoping I can do both lighting with t5s. I'm probably going to buy the coralife ones and strip them down. I'm not sure exactly. I'm probably going to make a lighting thread.

So it is getting going!
-Andrew

How wide is the stand? Home depot had some T5NO setups that included bulbs for ~$32 for a 2 bulb 48" unit. They had 2 and 3 footers as well.

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Why were they changing their minds so often? Was it the Electric bill they worry about? Hows the upkeep for all that? You paying for it? This is an awesome idea man ... are you going to be selling any of that moss? Your own personal store lol
There were a lot of factors involved, I think the main thing was they thought I'd stop focusing on other stuff as well or stop with the aquariums. Now being accepted to almost all of my colleges they're more willing to let me flood the basement Yes this will be the moss rack hopefully helping to supply the hobby with a consistent supply of mosses. It has been a goal of mine for years finally becoming reality.

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How wide is the stand? Home depot had some T5NO setups that included bulbs for ~$32 for a 2 bulb 48" unit. They had 2 and 3 footers as well.

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Since when does Home Depot have T5?!!? I knew they had T8 but T5 must be new. I'm going to go there now.

I'm going to add a Need to buy list above but right now I have to add:
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8 10 gallon aquariums, will be ordered next week.
T5 Lighting
Power strip + Timers
Glass tops for Aquariums

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There were a lot of factors involved, I think the main thing was they thought I'd stop focusing on other stuff as well or stop with the aquariums. Now being accepted to almost all of my colleges they're more willing to let me flood the basement Yes this will be the moss rack hopefully helping to supply the hobby with a consistent supply of mosses. It has been a goal of mine for years finally becoming reality.



Since when does Home Depot have T5?!!? I knew they had T8 but T5 must be new. I'm going to go there now.

I'm going to add a Need to buy list above but right now I have to add:
Sink
8 10 gallon aquariums, will be ordered next week.
T5 Lighting
Power strip + Timers
Glass tops for Aquariums

Thanks,
-Andrew

They had them when I was in there yesterday along with all there other strip lights. These were NO and all included the bulbs. I think there were 3 different sizes each wiht 2 bulbs in each.

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They had them when I was in there yesterday along with all there other strip lights. These were NO and all included the bulbs. I think there were 3 different sizes each wiht 2 bulbs in each.

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Like actual fixtures like the T8 fixtures they have always had?

I couldn't find information about them online...
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Like actual fixtures like the T8 fixtures they have always had?

I couldn't find information about them online...
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Yep jsut like in the T8 section but they were T5NO the 4' had 2- 28 watt bulbs. They don't have anything online I looked already aswell. I believe they were Lithonia brand.

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Yep jsut like in the T8 section but they were T5NO the 4' had 2- 28 watt bulbs. They don't have anything online I looked already aswell. I believe they were Lithonia brand.

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Time to check to see if they have any near me! If they do, I'll be back with the lighting soon

Thanks for the information, I went to Lowes this morning for the wood and they don't have T5 fixtures of any size yet (just tiny kitchen stuff)

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So I went to go to home Depots, and well... I went to where it used to be. Then came back for dinner. The funny part was the new location is right behind the old one and I passed it. I guess I was too excited to think or something, so I'll go there tomorrow and check out the T5 stuff.

In other news all the wood is cut, took about 45 mins or so and its all clamped now. Tomorrow morning I'm going to assemble it all.

Fun stuff, I'll put pictures of everything going on tomorrow.
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So I went to go to home Depots, and well... I went to where it used to be. Then came back for dinner. The funny part was the new location is right behind the old one and I passed it. I guess I was too excited to think or something, so I'll go there tomorrow and check out the T5 stuff.

In other news all the wood is cut, took about 45 mins or so and its all clamped now. Tomorrow morning I'm going to assemble it all.

Fun stuff, I'll put pictures of everything going on tomorrow.
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